On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:49:15 -0000, "Bob Wood"
wrote:

I think you need to explain why you think that extending the service from
Greenford beyond Ealing Broadway will result in passengers not using the
Greenford Branch.

The Greenford service currently runs through to Paddington, and I
suspect Paddington is a far more useful destination than Willesden for
the inhabitants of Castle Bar Park etc.

A better solution would be to reinstate the all stations
Slough-Paddington service that was lost at the last timetable change,
and divert the Heathrow Connect services (which can't be used for
through Heathrow-Paddington journeys anyway) up the NLL.

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John Rowland wrote:
"PaulBowery" wrote in message
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What about this for an idea- combine the Greenford
branch and Barking to Gospel Oak into a single service
via Ealing Broadway and Willesden Junction. This would
provide an interchange between the North London Line
and the west via Ealing Broadway. If paths in the Willesden
Junction area are a problem then some of the Stratford trains
could run to Willesden Junction low level via Queens Park.

This would remove the last few passengers from the Greenford branch.

Why would this be ? Sounds like a very good idea to me. It would provide
a much needed link between the GWML and the North london line. Of course
the service should really be extended north of Greenford to South or West
Rusilip to provide a connection with the Chiltern Line as well, but that
may require some significant new works, so I guess it is rather unlikely.

David

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, PaulBowery wrote:

What about this for an idea- combine the Greenford branch and Barking to
Gospel Oak into a single service via Ealing Broadway and Willesden
Junction. This would provide an interchange between the North London
Line and the west via Ealing Broadway. If paths in the Willesden
Junction area are a problem then some of the Stratford trains could run
to Willesden Junction low level via Queens Park.

I do think killing the service to Paddington, or anywhere similarly
central, would be a bit fatal.

How about making the branch part of the Central Line? You'd need about a
mile of four-tracking to get to the junction from Ealing Broadway; would
that be at all feasible?

tom

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:07:08 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

Paddington, or anywhere similarly central

Central? Paddington?

Even Fenchurch Street is closer to Charing Cross than Paddington...

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Chris Tolley wrote:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:07:08 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

Paddington, or anywhere similarly central

Central? Paddington?

Yes, it's in Zone 1 therefore it's central.

Even Fenchurch Street is closer to Charing Cross than Paddington...

As is Marylebone. That's the thing about Central London termini: they're
ALL central!

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:04:49 +1030, Aidan Stanger wrote:
Chris Tolley wrote:
Central? Paddington?
Yes, it's in Zone 1 therefore it's central.

Even Fenchurch Street is closer to Charing Cross than Paddington...
As is Marylebone. That's the thing about Central London termini: they're
ALL central!

In my mind it's "central" if it's within sensible walking distance of
something useful. I used to work in Traf Sq., and used to shop in
Tottenham Ct Rd. So, for me, neither Padd nor Fen St qualify. ;-)
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"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:04:49 +1030, Aidan Stanger wrote:
Chris Tolley wrote:
Central? Paddington?
Yes, it's in Zone 1 therefore it's central.

Even Fenchurch Street is closer to Charing Cross than Paddington...
As is Marylebone. That's the thing about Central London termini: they're
ALL central!

In my mind it's "central" if it's within sensible walking distance of
something useful. I used to work in Traf Sq., and used to shop in
Tottenham Ct Rd. So, for me, neither Padd nor Fen St qualify. ;-)

The boundary of what is, and what is not part of Central London is defined
by the map accompanying the Mayor of London Order 2000, as signed by the
First Secretary of State.

And no, it's not on the internet!

Aidan Stanger wrote:
Chris Tolley wrote:


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:07:08 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:


Paddington, or anywhere similarly central

Central? Paddington?


Yes, it's in Zone 1 therefore it's central.

Don't have that argument with Tom, he won't like it :-)

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Tom Anderson wrote:

How about making the branch part of the Central Line? You'd need
about a mile of four-tracking to get to the junction from Ealing
Broadway; would that be at all feasible?

Nope. You'd have to knock down most of Ealing Broadway to get enough
space in the GWML corridor, much less the need to rebuild the entire
station to accomodate the extra tracks.

A tunnel would be a possibility, but you'd probably end up missing out
Ealing Broadway itself unless you built tunneled platforms.

IOW, _expensive_....

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
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Tom Anderson wrote:

How about making the branch part of the Central Line? You'd need
about a mile of four-tracking to get to the junction from Ealing
Broadway; would that be at all feasible?

Nope. You'd have to knock down most of Ealing Broadway to get enough
space in the GWML corridor, much less the need to rebuild the entire
station to accomodate the extra tracks.

A tunnel would be a possibility, but you'd probably end up missing out
Ealing Broadway itself unless you built tunneled platforms.

IOW, _expensive_....


What wrong with running the Central over the Relief roads?