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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4303317.stm

The new timetable has obviously had an effect, but is it really the
timetable recast or just longer journey times that are to thank for the
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Dave Arquati wrote in message ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4303317.stm

The new timetable has obviously had an effect, but is it really the
timetable recast or just longer journey times that are to thank for the
improvement?


As someone who drives freight trains, i'd assume that the 20 extra
minutes it now takes us when following a stopper between Woking and
Basingstoke is more than just coincidental....
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:47:42 +0000, Dave Arquati
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4303317.stm

The new timetable has obviously had an effect, but is it really the
timetable recast or just longer journey times that are to thank for the
improvement?



I'd have hoped for more than 90% seeing the time trains I've been
wait at stations. 5 minutes at Epsom in the evening is rather
excessive. In the morning there's at least a minutes wait at Motspur
Park and that can't be to give time for everyone to board. Don't think
the number reaches double figures!



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David wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:47:42 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4303317.stm

The new timetable has obviously had an effect, but is it really the
timetable recast or just longer journey times that are to thank for the
improvement?


I'd have hoped for more than 90% seeing the time trains I've been
wait at stations. 5 minutes at Epsom in the evening is rather
excessive. In the morning there's at least a minutes wait at Motspur
Park and that can't be to give time for everyone to board. Don't think
the number reaches double figures!


A major shortfall of the punctuality system seems to be that it only
records arrival at the final destination - which seems odd, as given the
computerised departure board system, I'd imagine departures from almost
all intermediate points are already measured.

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(David) wrote in message ...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:47:42 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4303317.stm

The new timetable has obviously had an effect, but is it really the
timetable recast or just longer journey times that are to thank for the
improvement?



I'd have hoped for more than 90% seeing the time trains I've been
wait at stations. 5 minutes at Epsom in the evening is rather
excessive. In the morning there's at least a minutes wait at Motspur
Park and that can't be to give time for everyone to board. Don't think
the number reaches double figures!



Dave


Worse still, I've been on trains which have sat around for a minute
and a half at Earlsfield. Not long ago, half the trains wouldn't even
have stopped there.

James.


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"James" wrote

Worse still, I've been on trains which have sat around for a minute
and a half at Earlsfield. Not long ago, half the trains wouldn't even
have stopped there.

Instead they'd have stopped at a signal behind one that did.

Peter


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On 28 Feb 2005 10:33:10 -0800, alan b wrote:

As someone who drives freight trains, i'd assume that the 20 extra
minutes it now takes us when following a stopper between Woking and
Basingstoke is more than just coincidental....


Could you clarify - were you previously on the fast lines, or in front
of the stoppers?

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In message , James
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Worse still, I've been on trains which have sat around for a minute and
a half at Earlsfield. Not long ago, half the trains wouldn't even have
stopped there.

I get a mini-bus an hour if I'm lucky, yet you moan.
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"Peter Masson" wrote in message ...
"James" wrote

Worse still, I've been on trains which have sat around for a minute
and a half at Earlsfield. Not long ago, half the trains wouldn't even
have stopped there.

Instead they'd have stopped at a signal behind one that did.

Peter


So cynical. At least half the time, it would get on with it, make
quick stops at Clapham and Vauxhall, then sit outside Waterloo waiting
to get across into Platform 1 whilst something leaves Platform 2.

J
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Clive Coleman wrote in message ...
In message , James
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Worse still, I've been on trains which have sat around for a minute and
a half at Earlsfield. Not long ago, half the trains wouldn't even have
stopped there.

I get a mini-bus an hour if I'm lucky, yet you moan.


The dynamics of an urban railway are very different to that of running
a transport service in the boondocks. The problem is that SWT are
forced to try and operate like a country railway within the urban
section. They should be allowed, like LUL, to run a metro service with
15-20 second stops and simply getting on with it. Otherwise, they will
deserve a reputation for being slow.

J


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