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If there is a fire then the gates will open automatically and a bloody
annoying voice tells you where to go!

Chris! wrote:
General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote:

Can someone explain why the gates being closed for exit when the side



gate was open is a breach of safety?




At a guess the amount of people specified in the 'fire capacity'
cannont be evacuated quickly enough through only the side gate. Also,
if the gate is unlocked but closed, how does one know to try it?


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General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote:
If there is a fire then the gates will open automatically and a

bloody
annoying voice tells you where to go!


If theres a fire? Or if the fire alarm is activated

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The display indicated no exit, the display could have been incorrect
though I guess.

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Where would one find the fire alarm, just incase the next time I can't
get out. I looked around but couldn't see any obvious emergency release
buttons.

Kevin

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Only assuming that the alarm has been given. As I stated in a previous
posting, one day last week the gates were in operation but the booking
office not open, the staff were busy putting money in the ticket
machine and therefore not available to respond to a fire. I have not
seen any obvious alarms available for public use.
It is this sort of cavalier attitude towards safety that resulted in
the Kings Cross fire.

Kevin



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The display indicated no exit, the display could have been incorrect
though I guess.


And you assume that the public at large is too stupid to find the gate and
pass through it safely?


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So the public should ignore any warning signs or advisory signs on the
basis that they might be wrong. Should they also ignore announcements
over the pa on they basis that they may also be wrong.

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So the public should ignore any warning signs or advisory signs on

the
basis that they might be wrong. Should they also ignore announcements
over the pa on they basis that they may also be wrong.


yes. Especialy automatic announcements that seem to contradict
everything else. e.g. person on platform appologising for train being
diverted somewhere else at Earls Court and appologising for the
inconvenience being interupted by "District line services are oprating
normally".

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So the public should ignore any warning signs or advisory signs on the
basis that they might be wrong. Should they also ignore announcements
over the pa on they basis that they may also be wrong.


I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now you've
confirmed my first impression.


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Surely, Chris, the example you've given proves the announcements WERE
correct... A train being diverted at Earl's Court, signal failures on
the Wimbledon branch etc etc: These ARE (unfortunately) a normal
service on the District line... However much we hate them.



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