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Could anyone with a decent collection please pin down when Southwell Rd HA3
was built?


It is not shown in my 1948 Bartholomew Reference Atlas (which also shows
the top end of adjacent Shaftesbury Avenue as still under construction.

It still doesn't appear in the 1961 edition, although Shaftesbury Avenue
is clearly completed by then.

Southwell Road *does* appear in my 1988 Geographia - so some time
between 1961 and 1988 look likely. Hope that helps - perhaps someone
else can pin the date down more precisely.
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In message , John Rowland
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Could anyone with a decent collection please pin down when Southwell Rd HA3
was built?


It is not shown in my 1948 Bartholomew Reference Atlas (which also shows
the top end of adjacent Shaftesbury Avenue as still under construction.

It still doesn't appear in the 1961 edition, although Shaftesbury Avenue
is clearly completed by then.

Southwell Road *does* appear in my 1988 Geographia - so some time
between 1961 and 1988 look likely. Hope that helps - perhaps someone
else can pin the date down more precisely.


I can narrow the dates down a little: it's in the 1981 AA Greater
London Street Atlas, but not in the Geographia Greater London Atlas 11th
edition, which I have pencilled in as 1963. Why are street atlases so
often undated but have NEW emblazoned across the covers?

Incidentally and somewhat OT, I note from the Bartholomew Pocket London
Atlas 1939 that in the period 1937-9 Vaughan Road, Lambeth, was renamed
Southwell Road. I wonder why.
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thoss wrote:

Incidentally and somewhat OT, I note from the Bartholomew Pocket
London Atlas 1939 that in the period 1937-9 Vaughan Road, Lambeth,
was renamed Southwell Road. I wonder why.


The present Southwell Road SE5 runs parallel to and south-east of
Coldharbour Lane, with five short streets linking them, one of which is
Vaughan Road. See map at http://tinyurl.com/bhptu . Are you saying
that before 1937 both the present Vaughan Road and the present Southwell
Road were both called Vaughan Road? If so, the change was probably to
avoid confusion.

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thoss wrote:

Incidentally and somewhat OT, I note from the Bartholomew Pocket
London Atlas 1939 that in the period 1937-9 Vaughan Road, Lambeth,
was renamed Southwell Road. I wonder why.


The present Southwell Road SE5 runs parallel to and south-east of
Coldharbour Lane, with five short streets linking them, one of which is
Vaughan Road. See map at http://tinyurl.com/bhptu . Are you saying
that before 1937 both the present Vaughan Road and the present Southwell
Road were both called Vaughan Road? If so, the change was probably to
avoid confusion.

I can't say anything about the details. My earliest atlas is the one
mentioned above. The map shows Coldharbour Lane, Vaughan Road parallel
to it and, as you say, several short streets linking them.
Unfortunately these are not named. The atlas has a supplementary index
listing street name changes 1937-39. There seem to be an awful lot of
them - 12 pages worth. I wonder whether the Luftwaffe caused so many.
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According to my 1905 map of the area, what is now Northland Street didn't
exist and Vaughn Street had a 90 degree bend in it at what is now the
junction with Southwell Road. So there was no confusion, just one road!
Don't know when this extra road was built.


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thoss wrote:

Incidentally and somewhat OT, I note from the Bartholomew Pocket
London Atlas 1939 that in the period 1937-9 Vaughan Road, Lambeth,
was renamed Southwell Road. I wonder why.


The present Southwell Road SE5 runs parallel to and south-east of
Coldharbour Lane, with five short streets linking them, one of which is
Vaughan Road. See map at http://tinyurl.com/bhptu . Are you saying
that before 1937 both the present Vaughan Road and the present Southwell
Road were both called Vaughan Road? If so, the change was probably to
avoid confusion.

I can't say anything about the details. My earliest atlas is the one
mentioned above. The map shows Coldharbour Lane, Vaughan Road parallel
to it and, as you say, several short streets linking them.
Unfortunately these are not named. The atlas has a supplementary index
listing street name changes 1937-39. There seem to be an awful lot of
them - 12 pages worth. I wonder whether the Luftwaffe caused so many.
--
Thoss





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Although not A-Z, the MOTO web sight has some interesting maps of London
circa 1746 and onwards to view or buy. May take a long while to get to
the map pages if you are dial up.

http://www.motco.com/default-Markou.asp


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