I have two questions about the GN&C

1)
Why were all they Great Northern & City platforms built above the
lifts, so that you had to go up to the platform, when almost all the
other tube stations are the reverse (going down to the platform from
the lift)?

2)
Are they ever going to clean up the stations so that they have proper
lighting and less oppressive paintwork (i.e. rather than the "council
house yellow" designs of network south east) and don't look like a
mugger's paradise?

lonelytraveller wrote in message
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I have two questions about the GN&C

1)
Why were all they Great Northern & City platforms built above the
lifts, so that you had to go up to the platform, when almost all the
other tube stations are the reverse (going down to the platform from
the lift)?

2)
Are they ever going to clean up the stations so that they have proper
lighting and less oppressive paintwork (i.e. rather than the "council
house yellow" designs of network south east) and don't look like a
mugger's paradise?

Concerning the access to the lifts, on the Northern City Line (N.C.L.) being
below platform level this is the case at Old Street and Essex Road.
At Moorgate and Highbury the lifts were above platform level.
I am given to understand that the arrangement to have the lift below the
N.C.L.
platforms at Old Street was to allow a shared subway leading to/from the
lifts
with the Northern Line. The Northern Line is at a lower level beneath the
N.C.L
at Old Street with the tracks running on the same alignment between Old
Street
and Moorgate. The Northern Line platforms at Old Street are nearer Moorgate
than the N.C.L. platforms.
I believe the arrangement at Essex Road was for similar reasons but the tube
line
beneath never got built. It would have been a line similar to the planned
Hackney -
Chelsea tube.

Dave Cockle (work for wagn)

So why isn't (or rather wasnt) angel built like that?

lonelytraveller wrote:
So why isn't (or rather wasnt) angel built like that?

Because Angel is nothing to do with the NCL (GN&C): it is on the
Northern Line. Twenty seconds reading the post and looking at a map
would tell you that - or you are already aware of this, but have posted
without bothering to think about it for a second.

A helpful word of advice: a lot of the stuff you have posted recently
seems to be lacking in thought or does not make sense. Try applying
your brain and reading things properly - and think about them - before
posting and your contributions will be much more appreciated.

TIA

Angel is to do with the chelsea-hackney line.

Oh, p.s. think through all the possibilities before assuming I meant
the one thing that meant you could leap on it and declare me wrong.

In message . com,
writes

A helpful word of advice: a lot of the stuff you have posted recently
seems to be lacking in thought or does not make sense.

You do realise you are responding to a troll, I hope?

--
Paul Terry

lonelytraveller wrote:
So why isn't (or rather wasnt) angel built like that?

Because Angel is nothing to do with the NCL (GN&C): it is on the
Northern Line. Twenty seconds reading the post and looking at a map
would tell you that - or you are already aware of this, but have posted
without bothering to think about it for a second.

A helpful word of advice: a lot of the stuff you have posted recently
seems to be lacking in thought or does not make sense. Try applying
your brain and reading things properly - and think about them - before
posting and your contributions will be much more appreciated.

TIA

On 16 May 2005 12:38:49 -0700, wrote:


lonelytraveller wrote:
So why isn't (or rather wasnt) angel built like that?

Because Angel is nothing to do with the NCL (GN&C): it is on the
Northern Line. Twenty seconds reading the post and looking at a map
would tell you that - or you are already aware of this, but have posted
without bothering to think about it for a second.

A helpful word of advice: a lot of the stuff you have posted recently
seems to be lacking in thought or does not make sense. Try applying
your brain and reading things properly - and think about them - before
posting and your contributions will be much more appreciated.

A helpful word of advice to you: If you want to rant about someone's
alleged Usenet cluelessness, don't post it twice. It makes you look
amateurish.

In any case, that was a pretty ****ty response, wasn't it?

Bonzo wrote:

A helpful word of advice to you: If you want to rant about someone's
alleged Usenet cluelessness, don't post it twice. It makes you look
amateurish.

Google Groups posted it twice - it happens to the best of us, see WWII
Bunker topic for an example from lonelytraveller ;-)

In any case, that was a pretty ****ty response, wasn't it?

That's one opinion - you're perfectly entitled to disagree with my
reasoning for posting as I did and I've got no argument with that. If
the BBC hadn't screwed up their weather forecast presentation I would
probably have been a bit more forgiving :-)

Paul Terry wrote:
In message . com,
writes

A helpful word of advice: a lot of the stuff you have posted
recently
seems to be lacking in thought or does not make sense.

You do realise you are responding to a troll, I hope?

That's another opinion - one with which I am more inclined to agree.

Personally I would hope that lonelytraveller just thinks things through
a bit more - I'm not saying that all the poster's contributions are
nonsense, but looking a sample of recent ones my opinion hasn't changed
since yesterday's post.

lonelytraveller wrote:
Angel is to do with the chelsea-hackney line.

As Dave Cockle said 'It would have been a line *similar* to the planned

Hackney - Chelsea tube' (my emphasis). The GN&CR was built a century
ago, and the planned Hackney - Chelsea line in it's current form (with
a possible station at Angel) dates only from the Central London Rail
Study of the late 80's. There have been other proposals floated in the
past, which did not include a station at Angel.

Incidentally Argyle Street station on the Glasgow suburban network is
underground, with escalators going down from the ticket hall (which is
just off Argyle Street) to a concourse, then escalators *up* to the
platform. The reason for this is because the tunnel is immediately
below the centre of Argyle Street itself without space for a concourse
between street and platforms.