Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering possible extensions to
Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.
Both of these could be very interesting.

No details are given, but I'm guessing that the Farringdon extension could
run in tunnel to Moorgate,
then take over Thameslink's branch to Farringdon.
This will be closing in any case when Thameslink 2000 is built.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned Fleet/Jubilee
line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych,
and take over the abandoned Jubilee line tunnels and platforms at Charing
Cross.
I understand that provision was made for Jubilee line platforms when City
Thameslink was built.

Peter.

Peter Goodland wrote:

Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering possible extensions
to Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych, and take over
the abandoned
Jubilee line tunnels and platforms at Charing Cross. I understand that
provision
was made for Jubilee line platforms when City Thameslink was built.

Not sure about that one - hadn't the Fleet Line been abandoned by the late
1980s? Would this route lead to the return of a service at Aldwych? If so
could they add a subway to Temple?

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych, and take over
the abandoned
Jubilee line tunnels and platforms at Charing Cross. I understand that
provision
was made for Jubilee line platforms when City Thameslink was built.

Not sure about that one - hadn't the Fleet Line been abandoned by the late
1980s? Would this route lead to the return of a service at Aldwych? If so
could they add a subway to Temple?

The idea of the Fleet/Jubilee line extension to the city was presumably
abandoned some time before the current extension further south was built.
IIRC, the original Fleet line plan was to include stations at Aldwych,
Holborn Viaduct and Bank.

I was speculating on whether this new plan would follow the same route,
after all there are abandoned platforms at Charing Cross
and some tunnel east of there towards Aldwych. There is also some protection
of the route, and some construction at City Thameslink.

Peter.

In article , Peter
Goodland writes
The idea of the Fleet/Jubilee line extension to the city was presumably
abandoned some time before the current extension further south was built.
IIRC, the original Fleet line plan was to include stations at Aldwych,
Holborn Viaduct and Bank.

Aldwych, Ludgate Circus, Cannon Street, Fenchurch Street, St.Katherine's
Dock, Wapping, then via ELL and BR lines to Lewisham.

I was speculating on whether this new plan would follow the same route,
after all there are abandoned platforms at Charing Cross
and some tunnel east of there towards Aldwych.

DLR trains are almost certainly too big to fit.

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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article , Peter Goodland
writes

there are abandoned platforms at Charing Cross and some tunnel east of
there towards Aldwych.

DLR trains are almost certainly too big to fit.

I'm confused. Are DLR trains bigger than tube trains?

tom

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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article ,
Peter Goodland writes

there are abandoned platforms at Charing Cross and some tunnel
east of there towards Aldwych.

DLR trains are almost certainly too big to fit.

I'm confused. Are DLR trains bigger than tube trains?

Yes. In particular, DLR stock is about half a metre taller than tube
stock.

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In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article , Peter
Goodland writes

there are abandoned platforms at Charing Cross and some tunnel east
of there towards Aldwych.

DLR trains are almost certainly too big to fit.

I'm confused. Are DLR trains bigger than tube trains?

Yes, in terms of the diameter tube tunnel they will fit in, at least.

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"Peter Goodland" petergoodland.at.hotmail.com wrote in message
...

Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering
possible extensions to Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych,
and take over the abandoned Jubilee line tunnels and
platforms at Charing Cross.

I don't think the present DLR stock will fit in the Jubilee tunnels from
Aldwych to Charing Cross.

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In ,
John Rowland typed:

"Peter Goodland" petergoodland.at.hotmail.com wrote in message
...

Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering
possible extensions to Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych,
and take over the abandoned Jubilee line tunnels and
platforms at Charing Cross.

I don't think the present DLR stock will fit in the Jubilee tunnels
from Aldwych to Charing Cross.

Jubilee tunnels from Aldwych to Charing Cross?

Tell me more!




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Bob

Bob Wood wrote:

I don't think the present DLR stock will fit in the Jubilee tunnels
from Aldwych to Charing Cross.

Jubilee tunnels from Aldwych to Charing Cross?

Tell me more!

The original plan for the Jubilee Line was that after Charing Cross it would
run to Aldwych (thus making that station a bit useful - tunnels along the
Strand were built but never used) then along the course of the Fleet (hence
the planned name "Fleet Line"), taking in Holborn Viaduct (now City
Thameslink) and Fenchurch Street, then down to Surrey Docks (now Quays) and
then over the mainline rail to Hayes (which would have brought the tube into
that part of the world - I wonder how Fare's "Fair" would have gone down in
such circumstances). However the project only got to Charing Cross and the
remaining plans never materialised.