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Paul Corfield July 15th 05 05:14 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:07 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Nicola Redwood) wrote:

Victoria Line trains are now stopping at Kings X again - yeah!! Was an
inconvenience changing at Warren St for Northern Line, but
understandable in the circumstances.

Problems though currently southbound due to a defective train at
Finsbury Park


No sign of this as I walked into the main line station from Euston Road.
Not that I was looking very carefully, admittedly.


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...t.asp?prID=433

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Colin Rosenstiel July 15th 05 05:39 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 
In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:07 +0100 (BST),
(Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Nicola Redwood) wrote:

Victoria Line trains are now stopping at Kings X again - yeah!! Was
an inconvenience changing at Warren St for Northern Line, but
understandable in the circumstances.

Problems though currently southbound due to a defective train at
Finsbury Park


No sign of this as I walked into the main line station from Euston

Road. Not that I was looking very carefully, admittedly.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...s-releases-con
tent.asp?prID=433


So how do people buy tickets?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Paul Corfield July 15th 05 06:44 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:39 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:07 +0100 (BST),
(Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Nicola Redwood) wrote:

Victoria Line trains are now stopping at Kings X again - yeah!! Was
an inconvenience changing at Warren St for Northern Line, but
understandable in the circumstances.

Problems though currently southbound due to a defective train at
Finsbury Park

No sign of this as I walked into the main line station from Euston

Road. Not that I was looking very carefully, admittedly.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...s-releases-con
tent.asp?prID=433


So how do people buy tickets?


to be completely honest Colin I don't know. I was as surprised as the
next person when the Northern Line driver at TCR said that Kings Cross
had opened for Vic Line services. We certainly had not had an internal E
Mail announcing it before I left the office. I get a sense that KX had
only been open for maybe an hour or less by the time I went through.

The first priority may well be to get lines working and people moving
with the money bit coming a slight second to having staff in a visible
and reassuring position. Certainly a number of the replacement buses or
supplementary buses on some routes are not taking fares.

I'm sure the ticket office and ticket machines will be covered pretty
soon.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Stuart July 15th 05 07:14 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

I've asked WAGN the same question about stopping more services at
Finsbury Park.


Or even better still stop more at Alexandra Palace and Finsbury Park.
With the volume of people who normally get on at Bounds Green/Wood
Green the trans are getting pretty full, as is the 29 bus. The services
from/to that area aren't frequent enough at weekends and evenings



Eh? There's a 10 minute local service isn't there?


During weekdays there is, until the evenings which are much less
frequent as are weekends. Last Sunday trains were every 30 minutes as
the Hertford north branch was shut. The N29 is like 2am on a Friday or
Saturday night.... as early as 10:30 on weekdays




Dave Arquati July 15th 05 07:41 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:


In article ,
(Stuart) wrote:


Colin Rosenstiel wrote:


I've asked WAGN the same question about stopping more services at
Finsbury Park.

Or even better still stop more at Alexandra Palace and Finsbury
Park. With the volume of people who normally get on at Bounds
Green/Wood Green the trans are getting pretty full, as is the 29
bus. The services from/to that area aren't frequent enough at
weekends and evenings

Eh? There's a 10 minute local service isn't there?


Every 30 mins to each of the Welwyn/Hertford branches (which makes it
every 15 as far as Ally Pally). Which is not much compared to the
18tph off-peak Piccadilly service.



Eh? It's every 10 minutes at Hornsey when I go there.


When I caught the train the other day from Old Street to New Southgate
(the train was bound for Welwyn GC), it stopped at Hornsey and
Harringay, but skipped Ally Pally - the service pattern isn't quite as
simple as it seems.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Loony Tune July 15th 05 08:25 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 

"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:24:53 +0100, "Loony Tune"
wrote:

Well no-one else has commented. You is this only one. So either tell me or
shut up


To top-post is to put your reply text above the quoted text. Don't do
it


OK keep you shirt on old chap. It's the end of the world. I mean

Loony T



Loony Tune July 15th 05 08:26 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
...
In message , Loony Tune
writes

Well no-one else has commented. You is this only one. So either tell me or
shut up


Colin has already *shown* you - but perhaps you didn't notice.

On usenet, just as in real life, the idea is that you make your response
AFTER the previous person's comment, not befo

Comment 1

Response to 1

Comment 2

Response to 2

ADD NEXT COMMENT HERE

Typing your reply in front of the text you are commenting upon is known
as "top posting" and it makes the quotations unnecessarily difficult to
follow because the natural order of debate has been reversed.

--
Paul Terry


Thank-you

Loony T



Loony Tune July 15th 05 08:26 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...
Loony Tune wrote:
Well no-one else has commented. You is this only one. So either tell
me or shut up


Top posting is putting your message above the previous ones. Bottom
posting
is putting yours below so that someone car read them in the correct order.
It also makes it easier for people who are blind to use a device that
reads
the message to them.

It's also what everyone else does on this NG.



Thank-you too

Loony T



Colin Rosenstiel July 15th 05 10:35 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 
In article , (Dave Arquati)
wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

In article ,
(Stuart) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

I've asked WAGN the same question about stopping more services at
Finsbury Park.

Or even better still stop more at Alexandra Palace and Finsbury
Park. With the volume of people who normally get on at Bounds
Green/Wood Green the trans are getting pretty full, as is the 29
bus. The services from/to that area aren't frequent enough at
weekends and evenings

Eh? There's a 10 minute local service isn't there?

Every 30 mins to each of the Welwyn/Hertford branches (which makes it
every 15 as far as Ally Pally). Which is not much compared to the
18tph off-peak Piccadilly service.


Eh? It's every 10 minutes at Hornsey when I go there.


When I caught the train the other day from Old Street to New Southgate
(the train was bound for Welwyn GC), it stopped at Hornsey and
Harringay, but skipped Ally Pally - the service pattern isn't quite as
simple as it seems.


You must have caught the 17:37 or 18:07 from Old St then. They're the only
down trains that call at Haringey and Hornsey and skip Alexandra Palace.
They are followed by the 17:42 and 18:12 that skip Haringey and Hornsey
and call at Alexandra Palace. At least that's what Table 24 in front of me
says.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Malcolm Pinnell July 16th 05 10:43 PM

Congestion at Kings Cross/St Pancras
 

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:39 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:07 +0100 (BST),
(Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Nicola Redwood) wrote:

Victoria Line trains are now stopping at Kings X again - yeah!! Was
an inconvenience changing at Warren St for Northern Line, but
understandable in the circumstances.

Problems though currently southbound due to a defective train at
Finsbury Park

No sign of this as I walked into the main line station from Euston
Road. Not that I was looking very carefully, admittedly.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-cent...s-releases-con
tent.asp?prID=433


So how do people buy tickets?


to be completely honest Colin I don't know. I was as surprised as the
next person when the Northern Line driver at TCR said that Kings Cross
had opened for Vic Line services. We certainly had not had an internal E
Mail announcing it before I left the office. I get a sense that KX had
only been open for maybe an hour or less by the time I went through.

The first priority may well be to get lines working and people moving
with the money bit coming a slight second to having staff in a visible
and reassuring position. Certainly a number of the replacement buses or
supplementary buses on some routes are not taking fares.

I'm sure the ticket office and ticket machines will be covered pretty
soon.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!


I get the impression it was decided to open about 14:00. Was told by DOM at
around 14:20 - for a 15:30 start. Actual was about 15:45.




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