On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 02:47:14 +0100, Tim Bray
wrote:

It takes 5 mins to get one, and then you just feed a tenner into the
machine when the barriers say you are getting low.

....which TfL get to keep and earn interest on.

Oyster in its current form is not suitable for very infrequent
passengers. There is no excuse for blatently ripping these people
off. 2 quid was expensive, but 3 quid is offensive.

I hope the taxis increase their takings substantially and TfL's income
decreases accordingly, to teach them a lesson for this.

Neil

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Neil Williams wrote:

I hope the taxis increase their takings substantially and TfL's income
decreases accordingly, to teach them a lesson for this.

There's an idea! How about Oyster Prepay in Black Cabs with a higher rate
if you paid by cash ;-)

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It takes 5 mins to get one, and then you just feed a tenner into the
machine when the barriers say you are getting low.

...which TfL get to keep and earn interest on.

Oyster in its current form is not suitable for very infrequent
passengers. There is no excuse for blatently ripping these people
off. 2 quid was expensive, but 3 quid is offensive.

No. There is a *perception* that Oyster in its current form is not suitable
for very infrequent passengers. There is no minumum balance on the card.
Only put a fiver on if that is all you will use all year. You don't have to send
away your passport or have a credit check to get one - you just go to a tube
station and ask for one. You don't even have to fill in a form if you don't want
to. Its just plain old fear of change.

In article ,
(TKD) wrote:

It takes 5 mins to get one, and then you just feed a tenner into the
machine when the barriers say you are getting low.

...which TfL get to keep and earn interest on.

Oyster in its current form is not suitable for very infrequent
passengers. There is no excuse for blatently ripping these people
off. 2 quid was expensive, but 3 quid is offensive.

No. There is a *perception* that Oyster in its current form is not
suitable for very infrequent passengers. There is no minumum balance
on the card. Only put a fiver on if that is all you will use all year.
You don't have to send away your passport or have a credit check to
get one - you just go to a tube station and ask for one. You don't
even have to fill in a form if you don't want to. Its just plain old
fear of change.

How does one document the tickets in order to claim expenses then? Why
should I pay a year's worth up front?

It would be a different matter if WAGN used Oyster (though documentation
would still be a problem) but they don't.

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Colin Rosenstiel

How does one document the tickets in order to claim expenses then?

You can request a statement which will be mailed to you the same day by 1st class post.

Why should I pay a year's worth up front?

You don't. You can charge up your card with only the cost of your next journey each time.

In article ,
(TKD) wrote:

How does one document the tickets in order to claim expenses then?

You can request a statement which will be mailed to you the same day by
1st class post.

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

Why should I pay a year's worth up front?

You don't. You can charge up your card with only the cost of your next
journey each time.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

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Colin Rosenstiel

How does one document the tickets in order to claim expenses then?

You can request a statement which will be mailed to you the same day by
1st class post.

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

Why should I pay a year's worth up front?

You don't. You can charge up your card with only the cost of your next
journey each time.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

Are you just looking for any reason not to get one?

You can get a receipt every time you top up no matter what way you pay.

You can order a statement whenever you want or get a print out from the ticket office.

There will only be a very limited number of possible Oyster fares from next year.
Someone pedantic enough to only be prepared to top up on a per-journey basis
could surely be able to carry these listed on a small piece of paper with their Oyster
for them to refer to?

Otherwise don't bother - pay the higher price - the structure has obviously been designed
to penalise those not from London or the very stupid and it will subsidise the costs for the
rest of us.

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:54:11 +0100, "TKD" wrote:

Otherwise don't bother - pay the higher price - the structure has obviously been designed
to penalise those not from London or the very stupid and it will subsidise the costs for the
rest of us.

I see this as well. I don't consider it appropriate.

(I am not putting up barriers to me getting an Oyster - I don't need
one as I always travel to London on outboundary ODTCs, be they of the
peak or off-peak variety. I am merely objecting to the offensively
expensive fares).

Neil

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Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

When you feed cash into the machine, you press the receipt button and it
gives you one. I had these into work for expenses.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

On the leaflet, next to the machine.

In article ,
(Tim Bray) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

At any time? I expect a receipt when I part with cash. If I pay by
credit card I expect a transaction voucher.

When you feed cash into the machine, you press the receipt button and
it gives you one. I had these into work for expenses.

And the machines tell me what the Oyster single fares are, do they?

On the leaflet, next to the machine.

That's not a receipt for the fare paid, just the money put on the card
which might then be used for some other purpose. Don't they teach anyone
accountancy these days?

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Colin Rosenstiel