This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the basics of transport
science. I've been Googling for a while with no success. There are some
excellent resources for other broader sciences but I've had no luck for
transport.
Failing anything online I'd appreciate any advice on books I could have a
look at that are available from a normal library (I'm sure there's something
in the ICL library but I'm not there right now!).

Thanks in advance for any help!

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the basics of
transport
science. I've been Googling for a while with no success. There are some
excellent resources for other broader sciences but I've had no luck for
transport.
Failing anything online I'd appreciate any advice on books I could have a
look at that are available from a normal library (I'm sure there's
something
in the ICL library but I'm not there right now!).

Thanks in advance for any help!

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

Start here http://www.trainweb.org/railwaytechnical/

Try also: Practical Railway Engineering, Bonnett, Clifford F., 1996,
Imperial College Press, London

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the basics of
transport science.

What exactly is "transport science"? I can think of all kinds of different
disciplines that are relevant to transport -- engineering, physics,
mathematics, economics, etc etc, but I am not aware of anything called
transport science. What is it?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I
suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the
basics of transport science.

What exactly is "transport science"? I can think of all
kinds of different disciplines that are relevant to
transport -- engineering, physics, mathematics, economics,
etc etc, but I am not aware of anything called transport
science. What is it?

A catch all term for the subjects you've just mentioned.

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Richard J. wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I
suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the
basics of transport science.

What exactly is "transport science"? I can think of all
kinds of different disciplines that are relevant to
transport -- engineering, physics, mathematics, economics,
etc etc, but I am not aware of anything called transport
science. What is it?

A catch all term for the subjects you've just mentioned.


Thanks for your earlier reply BTW - I took a look at the site you mentioned
but as a beginner it was a bit advanced for my purposes. I appreciate the
information though. I was thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows
are studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how traffic flows around
cities or pedestrians around stations), an introduction to how they are
modelled, those sort of ideas if you can understand what I'm after (although
with very little knowledge of the area to begin with, it's difficult to
define).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

Dave Arquati wrote:
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Richard J. wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I
suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the
basics of transport science.

What exactly is "transport science"? I can think of all
kinds of different disciplines that are relevant to
transport -- engineering, physics, mathematics, economics,
etc etc, but I am not aware of anything called transport
science. What is it?

A catch all term for the subjects you've just mentioned.


Thanks for your earlier reply BTW - I took a look at the
site you mentioned but as a beginner it was a bit advanced
for my purposes. I appreciate the information though. I was
thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows are
studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how traffic
flows around cities or pedestrians around stations), an
introduction to how they are modelled, those sort of ideas
if you can understand what I'm after (although with very
little knowledge of the area to begin with, it's difficult
to define).

OK, try here, http://www.tps.org.uk/

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Dave Arquati wrote:
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Richard J. wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I
suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the
basics of transport science.

What exactly is "transport science"? I can think of all
kinds of different disciplines that are relevant to
transport -- engineering, physics, mathematics, economics,
etc etc, but I am not aware of anything called transport
science. What is it?

A catch all term for the subjects you've just mentioned.


Thanks for your earlier reply BTW - I took a look at the
site you mentioned but as a beginner it was a bit advanced
for my purposes. I appreciate the information though. I was
thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows are
studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how traffic
flows around cities or pedestrians around stations), an
introduction to how they are modelled, those sort of ideas
if you can understand what I'm after (although with very
little knowledge of the area to begin with, it's difficult
to define).

OK, try here, http://www.tps.org.uk/

That's excellent, thanks.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

From: "Dave Arquati"
Date: 19/07/2003 00:02 GMT Daylight Time

I was thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows
are studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how traffic flows around
cities or pedestrians around stations), an introduction to how they are
modelled, those sort of ideas if you can understand what I'm after (although
with very little knowledge of the area to begin with, it's difficult to
define).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7


Right! Now we seem to be on track after a few false starts with train spotters
assuming transport is all railways and that nothing else matters. There's
probably a later edition than this now but I would suggest as a starting point:

Bruton, M J (1975): "Introduction to Transportation Planning" (2nd Edn),
London: Hutchinson & Co.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy for beginners to
grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all supported by detailed written
explanations of what they do and where the terms in them come from. Deals with
road traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway stations though
(which, oddly enough, might be the kind of thing you'd find in an architecture
text rather than a transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say as
I'm not an architect).

Acrosticus wrote:
From: "Dave Arquati"
Date: 19/07/2003 00:02 GMT Daylight Time

I was thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows
are studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how
traffic flows around cities or pedestrians around
stations), an introduction to how they are modelled, those
sort of ideas if you can understand what I'm after
(although with very little knowledge of the area to begin
with, it's difficult to define).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7


Right! Now we seem to be on track after a few false starts
with train spotters assuming transport is all railways and
that nothing else matters. There's probably a later edition
than this now but I would suggest as a starting point:

Bruton, M J (1975): "Introduction to Transportation
Planning" (2nd Edn), London: Hutchinson & Co.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy
for beginners to grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all
supported by detailed written explanations of what they do
and where the terms in them come from. Deals with road
traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway
stations though (which, oddly enough, might be the kind of
thing you'd find in an architecture text rather than a
transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say as
I'm not an architect).

If the most constructive thing you can do is to crticise someone who at
least amkes an attempt to help, and by so doing gets closer to what the
questioner want, then it simply demonstrates what a little person you are.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy for beginners to
grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all supported by detailed written
explanations of what they do and where the terms in them come from. Deals with
road traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway stations though
(which, oddly enough, might be the kind of thing you'd find in an architecture
text rather than a transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say as
I'm not an architect).


I have a vague idea that UCL's architecture dept has some kind of
commercial spinoff that models how pedestrians *really* behave. It had
quite a good web site that I looked at once upon a time

Also I seem to remember some Scottish firm that does traffic simulations
by taking a plan of the roads of interest, and letting loose a bunch of
software cars in a Monte Carlo simulation. Name "Paramics", or some
such. Again, they had a web site. It only takes two variables to
simulate any car on the road, apparently, but I've forgotten what the
variables were - I think aggressiveness was one.

Jeremy Parker