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Dave Arquati · October 28th 05, 08:40 PM posted to uk.transport.london

wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Harry
Spencer) wrote:

"TKD" wrote in message
...
TfL had better start building all those extra lines now if they
want to stand a chance of getting them in place by 2016, not to
mention John Prestcott building the houses for the extra people to
live in. Then there is schools, shops, pubs etc etc.
The article suggests an increase in demand for rail and tube and
then goes on to say it is mostly expected to come from trains, so new
tube lines sound unlikely.
I don't follow that logic. The reference in the article is chair of
the panel for the South East; the South East area -excludes- London, so
his reference is purely in relation to train travel from settlements
from outside the London Boroughs -into- London. Those people still
have ultimate destinations to reach, which unless they work in close
proximity to the terminus (e.g. Paddington Basin or Broadgate) then
they still have to take another mode of transport after their train
journey.

This would also imply that the increase on the
tube alone is somewhat less than 24% if most of the new capacity
needed is expected to come from rail.
See above. The article is particularly poorly written, throwing in
London's own predicted population increase at the end. Surprised they
didn't pick up on the latest ONS population predictions as well, now
that's when it gets busy!
The article assumes the completion of Crossrail. That's quite a bit of
extra capacity.

Bearing in mind that some of the biggest growths in population will be
around Stevenage and Harlow, Crossrail will have no benefit.

Somewhat untrue. Crossrail will have huge benefits - in the order of
£20bn at the last estimate. It may have minor benefits to the new
residents in Stevenage and Harlow, but certainly not zero. As Tom said,
Crossrail releases capacity into Liverpool St for Harlow trains, and it
will also provide rapid access and increased capacity to the West End
and Canary Wharf for passengers from Stevenage changing off Thameslink
at Farringdon.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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