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Hi, I'm a final year University transport design student. I'm
undertaking a report on private commuter travel and I am interested in the opinions of both public and private users. I would like to know why certain people prefer each type of commuter travel and what problems are encountered day in day out. Below is a very brief summary of my initial thoughts Background : A significant percentage of commuters travel privately when making the journey to and from their place of work. They travel the same route at the same time, day in day out. Often encompassing the stress and boredom of congestion and road-works. Their time spent here can add considerable time to their day and can thus be described as being 'wasted time'. Any views and opinions would be appreciated. Andy |
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In message .com, at
04:34:54 on Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Andy remarked: Background : A significant percentage of commuters travel privately when making the journey to and from their place of work. They travel the same route at the same time, day in day out. Often encompassing the stress and boredom of congestion and road-works. Their time spent here can add considerable time to their day and can thus be described as being 'wasted time'. It's not wasted time if it's quicker door to door than using public transport. Nor is it wasted if they can listen to the radio (or other forms of "entertainment" if preferred). I used to listen to the R4 "today" programme for the hour I drove to work, and "PM"/"6-O-Clock News" on the way home. As a result I was much better informed about what was going on, and didn't regard the time as wasted at all. In fact, it was quite relaxing. No need to get stressed out by delays, any more than similarly regular delays on public transport. Indeed, one is much more the master of one's destiny in a car as you can take an alternative route so much easier than if you are stuck on a train. If I'd taken the train, the journey would have been more like 1.5hrs, and it's much more effort to listen to the radio whilst buffeted around on a commuter train, and getting to and from the station, compared to sitting in a comfortable car. -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Andy" wrote in message oups.com... Background : A significant percentage of commuters travel privately when making the journey to and from their place of work. They travel the same route at the same time, day in day out. Often encompassing the stress and boredom of congestion and road-works. Their time spent here can add considerable time to their day and can thus be described as being 'wasted time'. Andy It might not be considered wasted time if it helps to avoid the sort of people you find on public transport. (Takes cover) Paul |
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Seems to me my exposure to the risk of suffering from crime by drivers
(mainly the risk of someone's careless driving leading to collision with me) is much higher than my exposure to the risk of crime by public transport users. E.g. if I must encounter drunks, I'd much rather encounter one on a bus than one driving a car anywhere near me. Jon |
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Andy Seenan:
Hi, I'm a final year University transport design student. I'm undertaking a report on private commuter travel and I am interested in the opinions of both public and private users. ... Below is a very brief summary of my initial thoughts... Are you asking for opinions, or for opinions that support your desired conclusion? -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "He is even more important than my cat, | which is saying something." --Flash Wilson |
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![]() Mark Brader wrote: Are you asking for opinions, or for opinions that support your desired conclusion? Your own opinions would be useful. I mentioned my inital thoughts in order to try and invoke some kind of descussion or debate. Cheers Andy |
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Roland Perry wrote:
I used to listen to the R4 "today" programme for the hour I drove to work, and "PM"/"6-O-Clock News" on the way home. My travel patterns vary but I've listened to both Today and PM whilst commuting (I hate that word!) without the need for a car... there's this great invention called a personal radio! Sony make some really tiny (cigarette-lighter sized) FM personal radios. Obviously no good for any subterranean travel though. I find John Humphries a bit of an assault on my senses in the morning, as I'm rarely fully conscious then, but I rate Eddie Mair's wry style and the varied content of PM very highly. Alas 5pm is a bit early, though I sometimes catch it whilst still working. |
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In message .com, at
04:44:27 on Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Mizter T remarked: I used to listen to the R4 "today" programme for the hour I drove to work, and "PM"/"6-O-Clock News" on the way home. My travel patterns vary but I've listened to both Today and PM whilst commuting (I hate that word!) without the need for a car... there's this great invention called a personal radio! Sony make some really tiny (cigarette-lighter sized) FM personal radios. Obviously no good for any subterranean travel though. It's much more effort to listen to the radio whilst buffeted around on a commuter train, and getting to and from the station, compared to sitting in a comfortable car. I find John Humphries a bit of an assault on my senses in the morning, as I'm rarely fully conscious then, but I rate Eddie Mair's wry style and the varied content of PM very highly. Alas 5pm is a bit early, though I sometimes catch it whilst still working. Yes, I only listened to PM from about 5.45pm most days. -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message .com, at 04:44:27 on Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Mizter T remarked: I used to listen to the R4 "today" programme for the hour I drove to work, and "PM"/"6-O-Clock News" on the way home. My travel patterns vary but I've listened to both Today and PM whilst commuting (I hate that word!) without the need for a car... there's this great invention called a personal radio! Sony make some really tiny (cigarette-lighter sized) FM personal radios. Obviously no good for any subterranean travel though. It's much more effort to listen to the radio whilst buffeted around on a commuter train, and getting to and from the station, compared to sitting in a comfortable car. Er, perhaps, but I've never really found it a hassle, unless I'm so crammed in I can't reach in my pocket to change the volume or frequency, which happens more often on a bus than a train (but I'm quite tall ). So I get it all set up right before embarking my public transport vehicle of choice. I'd recommend it to those who only ever stick their headphone jack into Apple's white miniature hard-disk drive. I do drive, but avoid doing so in the rush hour if at all possible. No matter how comfortable the car, I find being in a traffic jam an uncomfortable situation, and start dreaming about merrily peddling down some parralel side-street on my bike going , or being on that bus that's cruising down the big red expanse of the bus lane. But I do totally understand that for some, being stuck in a traffic jam for 15 minutes is only a part of a longer journey that is most quickly completed by car. I find John Humphries a bit of an assault on my senses in the morning, as I'm rarely fully conscious then, but I rate Eddie Mair's wry style and the varied content of PM very highly. Alas 5pm is a bit early, though I sometimes catch it whilst still working. Yes, I only listened to PM from about 5.45pm most days. -- Roland Perry Workload dependent, I can sometimes sneak it on the radio in the office where I am now whilst doing some more mundane tasks at the end of the day, though that'd be a hanging offence in some other places I've worked. |
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On 2 Nov 2005 04:44:27 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:
Roland Perry wrote: I used to listen to the R4 "today" programme for the hour I drove to work, and "PM"/"6-O-Clock News" on the way home. My travel patterns vary but I've listened to both Today and PM whilst commuting (I hate that word!) without the need for a car... there's this great invention called a personal radio! Sony make some really tiny (cigarette-lighter sized) FM personal radios. Obviously no good for any subterranean travel though. There was some talk a while back about setting up DAB reception in the tubes... here's hoping! -- James Farrar . @gmail.com |
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