thoss wrote:
:
This happened in Reading about a century ago. The Berks/Oxon boundary
used to be the Thames, then Caversham - the Reading suburb north of the
Thames - was moved into Berks, and into Reading.

We used to live in Appleton, Cheshire, in the early 70's. When the GPO
decided Warrington was to be our postal district, we rebelled and used
to put "Appleton, Warrington, Cheshire" on our letters, which the GPO
didn't like because Warrington was in Lancashire (north of the Mersey).
Letters often arrived with Cheshire scribbled out and Lancashire added.

The situation was finally resolved when the moved the whole of
Warrington into Cheshire in 1974 having invented Greater Manchester and
Merseyside.

(Actually, I think they moved the county boundaries, as it was easier
than moving the town :-)

Martin Underwood wrote:

You'd think that it would make sense for the boundaries between one "county"
and another to be moved from time to time

They are. Repeatedly. And it always causes arguments and wastes a lot of
time and money.

The problem is that as soon as a line is drawn on a map to enclose some
particular area or not, people notice that generally it is advantageous
to develop just outside that boundary because land or local taxes are
cheaper. Thus the sprawl develops. The only way this will stop is to
return to the days of greenbelt policy, and make the belts sufficiently
wide and well protected. Fat chance.
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(37 073 at Wolverhampton, 1985)

DERWENT Zone 6 conquers ten further Southern stations...
10 Nov 2005 13:11:43 -0800, "Mizter T"

[originally posted to uk.transport.london ]
[ommitted to cross-post this to uk.railway ]
[pls reply to *this* post- sorry for the mess]


I'm surprised that no-one has referred to this yet, though it doesn't
seem to appear anywhere on the Southern (or any other) website(s).

I've seen a poster at a Southern station, which has been there at least
a week, that states that from 2 January 2006, when new fares are
introduced, the London's Zone 6 will be extended to include the
following stations to the south of Croydon and Sutton:

SNIP

I don't understand why they didn't just invent a zone 7.

Does this also mean that the Zone A tube stations will also be moving
into Zone 6?

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I'm surprised that no-one has referred to this yet, though it doesn't
seem to appear anywhere on the Southern (or any other) website(s).

I've seen a poster at a Southern station, which has been there at least
a week, that states that from 2 January 2006, when new fares are
introduced, the London's Zone 6 will be extended to include the
following stations to the south of Croydon and Sutton:

SNIP

I don't understand why they didn't just invent a zone 7.

Does this also mean that the Zone A tube stations will also be moving
into Zone 6?

Probably because TfL have a long term goal of having fewer zones, not
more.

Also the inclusion in Zone 6 seems to be a Southern idea rather than a TfL
initiative, probably just to make its charging "fairer" as it has adopted zonal
charging for all its station within London.

DERWENT Zone 6 conquers ten further Southern stations...
Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:19:14 -0000, "TKD"


I'm surprised that no-one has referred to this yet, though it doesn't
seem to appear anywhere on the Southern (or any other) website(s).

I've seen a poster at a Southern station, which has been there at least
a week, that states that from 2 January 2006, when new fares are
introduced, the London's Zone 6 will be extended to include the
following stations to the south of Croydon and Sutton:

SNIP

I don't understand why they didn't just invent a zone 7.

Does this also mean that the Zone A tube stations will also be moving
into Zone 6?

Probably because TfL have a long term goal of having fewer zones, not
more.

Also the inclusion in Zone 6 seems to be a Southern idea rather than a TfL
initiative, probably just to make its charging "fairer" as it has adopted zonal
charging for all its station within London.


Bet we see the Penalty Fare area extended to cover the whole branches
then.



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On 10 Nov 2005 13:11:43 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

[originally posted to uk.transport.london ]
[ommitted to cross-post this to uk.railway ]
[pls reply to *this* post- sorry for the mess]


I'm surprised that no-one has referred to this yet, though it doesn't
seem to appear anywhere on the Southern (or any other) website(s).

I've seen a poster at a Southern station, which has been there at least
a week, that states that from 2 January 2006, when new fares are
introduced, the London's Zone 6 will be extended to include the
following stations to the south of Croydon and Sutton:

Banstead and Epsom Downs
Chipstead, Kingswood, Tadworth and Tattenham Corner
Whyteleafe, Whyteleaf South and Caterham
Upper Wharlingham

Does this mean that passengers from these stations can no longer get
railcard discounts on (off peak) travel cards and other journeys
within the zones? If so, they will notice a significant fare
increase.
--
Peter Lawrence

"Peter Lawrence" wrote

Banstead and Epsom Downs
Chipstead, Kingswood, Tadworth and Tattenham Corner
Whyteleafe, Whyteleaf South and Caterham
Upper Wharlingham

Does this mean that passengers from these stations can no longer get
railcard discounts on (off peak) travel cards and other journeys
within the zones? If so, they will notice a significant fare
increase.

No, I don't think so. Why should it mean that? Are you suggesting that
railcard discounts are not available within the zones?

John Salmon wrote:
"Peter Lawrence" wrote

Banstead and Epsom Downs
Chipstead, Kingswood, Tadworth and Tattenham Corner
Whyteleafe, Whyteleaf South and Caterham
Upper Wharlingham

Does this mean that passengers from these stations can no longer get
railcard discounts on (off peak) travel cards and other journeys
within the zones? If so, they will notice a significant fare
increase.

No, I don't think so. Why should it mean that? Are you suggesting that
railcard discounts are not available within the zones?

IIRC not on Oyster.

--
Paul

DERWENT Zone 6 conquers ten further Southern stations...
Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:47:35 +0000, Paul


John Salmon wrote:
"Peter Lawrence" wrote

Banstead and Epsom Downs
Chipstead, Kingswood, Tadworth and Tattenham Corner
Whyteleafe, Whyteleaf South and Caterham
Upper Wharlingham

Does this mean that passengers from these stations can no longer get
railcard discounts on (off peak) travel cards and other journeys
within the zones? If so, they will notice a significant fare
increase.

No, I don't think so. Why should it mean that? Are you suggesting that
railcard discounts are not available within the zones?

IIRC not on Oyster.

Oyster is a waste of time on NR at the moment.

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DERWENT Zone 6 conquers ten further Southern stations...
Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:59:18 GMT, "Peter Lawrence"


On 10 Nov 2005 13:11:43 -0800, "Mizter T" wrote:

[originally posted to uk.transport.london ]
[ommitted to cross-post this to uk.railway ]
[pls reply to *this* post- sorry for the mess]


I'm surprised that no-one has referred to this yet, though it doesn't
seem to appear anywhere on the Southern (or any other) website(s).

I've seen a poster at a Southern station, which has been there at least
a week, that states that from 2 January 2006, when new fares are
introduced, the London's Zone 6 will be extended to include the
following stations to the south of Croydon and Sutton:

Banstead and Epsom Downs
Chipstead, Kingswood, Tadworth and Tattenham Corner
Whyteleafe, Whyteleaf South and Caterham
Upper Wharlingham

Does this mean that passengers from these stations can no longer get
railcard discounts on (off peak) travel cards and other journeys
within the zones? If so, they will notice a significant fare
increase.

No. Railcards still apply, and the majority of people will see ticket
prices reduced (unless the January price rises are more than 20%).

PRAR
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