What's the reason these aren't available? Points for PR reason(s) and
real reason(s), since oystercard.com doesn't even deign to give me one
of the former. Since the system works for 7 day travelcards I bet the
real reason isn't a technical one. 3 dayers don't work either - I
suppose because these descended from the weekend travelcard, which is
more like a odtc than a season ticket.

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Larry Lard
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2005, Larry Lard wrote:

What's the reason these aren't available? Points for PR reason(s) and
real reason(s), since oystercard.com doesn't even deign to give me one
of the former.

Could it be that since we've got capping, we don't really need 1DTCs?

Since the system works for 7 day travelcards I bet the real reason isn't
a technical one.

Makes sense.

tom

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TORG GROWS TIRED OF OBEYING PUNY HUMANS. SOON TORG WILL BREAK FREE AND
CRUSH THEM WITH HIS METAL CLAWS. In the meantime, Torg enjoys making
generic acid music.

Tom Anderson wrote in
h.li:

On Sat, 30 Dec 2005, Larry Lard wrote:

What's the reason these aren't available? Points for PR reason(s) and
real reason(s), since oystercard.com doesn't even deign to give me
one of the former.

Could it be that since we've got capping, we don't really need 1DTCs?

Not totally true - prepay doesnt work on National Rail which is the main
reason I buy 1 day travelcards.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Andrew Black (delete obvious bit) wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote in
h.li:

On Sat, 30 Dec 2005, Larry Lard wrote:

What's the reason these aren't available? Points for PR reason(s) and
real reason(s), since oystercard.com doesn't even deign to give me
one of the former.

Could it be that since we've got capping, we don't really need 1DTCs?

Not totally true - prepay doesnt work on National Rail which is the main
reason I buy 1 day travelcards.

I know - and capping also loses in the crucial midnight-to-0430 window,
too, and there are probably other issues which don't leap immediately to
mind. That's why i qualified 'need' with 'really' - these aren't huge
issues, although i admit that the NR issue is pretty big.

tom

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When I see a man on a bicycle I have hope for the human race. --
H. G. Wells

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:44:47 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:


I know - and capping also loses in the crucial midnight-to-0430 window,
too, and there are probably other issues which don't leap immediately to
mind. That's why i qualified 'need' with 'really' - these aren't huge
issues, although i admit that the NR issue is pretty big.

Capping is supposed to work from 0430 to 0430. Also, with the new
fares, you get a 50p discount if you choose to sacrifice National
Rail, although that could be argued to undermine the integrated manner
of the One Day Travelcard.

I know - and capping also loses in the crucial midnight-to-0430 window,
too, and there are probably other issues which don't leap immediately to
mind. That's why i qualified 'need' with 'really' - these aren't huge
issues, although i admit that the NR issue is pretty big.

Capping is supposed to work from 0430 to 0430. Also, with the new
fares, you get a 50p discount if you choose to sacrifice National
Rail, although that could be argued to undermine the integrated manner
of the One Day Travelcard.

Yes it does. In fact on the statement you get from Oyster detailing all
transactions for the last 3 months 1am is 25:00 and 2.15am is 26:15.
i.e. part of the previous day.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:44:47 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

I know - and capping also loses in the crucial midnight-to-0430 window,

Eh?

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:55:50 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

What's the reason these aren't available? Points for PR reason(s) and
real reason(s), since oystercard.com doesn't even deign to give me one
of the former.

Could it be that since we've got capping, we don't really need 1DTCs?

Don't forget the National Rail stations that are included in a ODTC
but don't take pre-pay Oyster.

In ,
Laurence Payne typed:

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:55:50 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

What's the reason these aren't available? Points for PR reason(s)
and real reason(s), since oystercard.com doesn't even deign to give
me one of the former.

Could it be that since we've got capping, we don't really need 1DTCs?

Don't forget the National Rail stations that are included in a ODTC
but don't take pre-pay Oyster.

But if an Oyster was carrying a ODTC it wouldn't be a Pre-Pay Oyster.



--
Bob

Since the system works for 7 day travelcards I bet the
real reason isn't a technical one.

TfL wants us to buy our tickets online or by telephone and for us
to do it in fewer transactions. i.e. by holding a pay as you go balance.

Selling one day travelcards on Oyster would involve more transactions
than using prepay+capping. Also tickets cannot be purchased online
for same-day use (you have to do it the day before). Assuming most
people would continue to buy travelcards on day of use, they would
have to buy them at the station and the TfL business plan (and use of
technology) is about getting sales out of stations.