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Paul wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:12:53 -0000, John Rowland wrote:

I have to admit I gave a resigned sigh when I read your message,
but having looked at the map I think its absolutely hilarious!


I thought the anagram one was funnier, but there are some really good
ones on yours as well. I particularly liked BBC1stead.

I notice you couldn't think of any way of improving on Canonbury.

I'm a bit puzzled about Cow & Gateway, though - I've not heard of that
before. Is it a pub chain? The best corporate sponsored name I've seen
for that station is Tower Somerfield!


Cow and Gate is/was a brand of baby food. Quite what relevance cows and
gates have to babies or their food is anyone's guess!


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Cow and Gate is/was a brand of baby food. Quite what relevance cows and
gates have to babies or their food is anyone's guess!


Milk came from cows when I was a child.
Baby milk formula came from cows too.

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:34:06 -0000, Martin Underwood wrote:

Cow and Gate is/was a brand of baby food.


Absolutely - and it's 'is' - www.cowandgate.co.uk. I was keen to make
sure that everything on the map was current, as if it actually were a
proposal to TfL for what they could do to make money! That said, I think
there are one or two I forgot to check and which I've since realised may
be extinct, so I hope no-one notices

(The exception is QSway, which is labelled Closed from February 2006
because QS went into administration this month. I wanted to retain the
cross through Queensway and think of a company for whom such a cross
would be appropriate, so I was delighted when I remembered seeing that
on the business pages a few weeks back!)

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:15:34 +1030, Aidan Stanger wrote:

[Tower Gateway]
The best corporate sponsored name I've seen
for that station is Tower Somerfield!


Hehe, I agree that's good, but it wasn't in fitting with the way the
rest of the map worked so I didn't seriously consider it.

TfL might not be the only ones you annoy - the station you've named
Silver Spoon Town is right next to a competing company's sugar refinery!


Oh yes, so it is - hadn't thought of that!

You can probably save a lot of bandwidth by saving it as a jpeg or png
or optimized gif - those usually make much smaller files than pdfs.


I did wonder about that originally, but the 8-bit PNG I've put up on my
Flickr account is 609KB, about 130KB larger than the PDF. I could shrink
the PNG's dimensions a little further but it loses readability,
particularly in the tiny footnotes, which are barely legible even now.

I don't think you can really beat PDF for distributing something large
that originally consists wholly of vector graphics and text - except
perhaps if SVG ever gets widespread support (i.e. Internet Explorer
native support to match Opera and that popular one). The great advantage
of the PDF, of course, is that anyone who wants to print it can do so at
unlimited resolution (or rather, limited only by the resolution of their
printer).

Still I'm impressed - it took my website weeks to get a tenth as many
hits. How did you manage to get so much traffic so quickly?


I think BoingBoing was the key. Its post about the anagram map came up
as the first result on Google when I was seeing whether my tube map had
made it on there (the site had the word Sponsors in it above its ads),
and I thought, if they liked that, they might like this, so I submitted
it to them, and lo and behold:

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/21...don_under.html

It's quite interesting to see how different the pattern of hits has been
as a result - when I last did anything that got any significant
interest, there was a steady exponential-ish growth as it spread around
the web for quite some time, before a very, very long, slow tail
trailing off after the peak. With this it's had 6500 a day for the first
two days online, yet Technorati/Google Blog Search only show a handful
(25ish) of people linking to it. I think with BoingBoing there must be
two effects:

1) so many people read it that you get loads of hits from it

2) so many people read it that few of them think it's worth putting it
on their own weblogs afterwards, since they assume that everyone will
have seen it already on BoingBoing! (See opening remark he
http://www.jaykayess.com/archives/338 )

Anyway, that's enough meme theory for one day, time to go and eat some
sausages.

Paul

P.S. One last interesting fact - of the thousands to see it so far, only
one has clicked the e-mail address in it and sent me a message. I put it
in out of interest, to see if anyone would. Not even the bloke who runs
that site archiving all the spoof (and useful) maps let me know when he
took a copy of it for his site. Quite fitting that no-one would want to
speak to a stranger, though - it's just like being on the Tube in that
respect


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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:01:23 -0000, Martin Underwood wrote:

Doesn't explain about the gate, though!


This does: http://www.cowandgate.co.uk/en/article.asp?chco_id=6356

Company History
Cow & Gate started in 1771 as a small grocery shop in Guildford at
Number 20 High Street, owned by the Gates family. In 1887, the two
brothers Charles and Leonard Gates decided to expand into the dairy
trade, and opened up a new business called The West Surrey Central
Dairy. To ensure supplies of the best quality milk, they built their own
creameries in the West of England, and also in Ireland, where Cow & Gate
infant formula milks are still produced today. Their best-selling
product was fresh cream. This was sold in distinctive little brown jugs,
with a label showing a cow looking through a gate. Among their customers
were members of the Royal family, including Queen Victoria, the Prince
of Wales, and the Duke of York. The label became famous, and it soon
became known as 'Cow & Gate' cream.

(As to why I went to the trouble of finding that, what can I say? I have
a lot of time on my hands since finishing the map )

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Paul wrote:
Hi,

Thought my fellow London transport afficionados might like this - it's a
mocked-up version of what the Tube Map could look like if TfL decided to
allow corporate sponsors to pay them lots of money in return for slight
tube station name-changes, e.g. Alliance & Leicester Square, Pimmslico,
BaysWaterstone's, etc.


Send this to Metro.. I'm sure they'll love it, as I did, and print it
(they certainly love anything else about the Underground - even having
featured the 'London Underground' song!).

Jonathan

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On 25 Feb 2006 17:18:08 -0800, Jonathan Morris wrote:

Send this to Metro.. I'm sure they'll love it, as I did, and print it
(they certainly love anything else about the Underground - even having
featured the 'London Underground' song!).


Interesting idea, but I'm not sure where they'd stand on it really
because of the copyright issue - it's a blatant infringement of TfL's
copyright (hence their lawyers going after the predecessor anagram tube
map) so I don't know whether Metro would want to risk any legal trouble.
I'll think about it though!

Paul
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Interesting idea, but I'm not sure where they'd stand on it really
because of the copyright issue - it's a blatant infringement of TfL's
copyright (hence their lawyers going after the predecessor anagram tube
map) so I don't know whether Metro would want to risk any legal trouble.
I'll think about it though!


The Times have picked up (yesterday) on the fact that the "Anagram" map has
been removed for legal reasons, so I dare say that there'll be something in
Metro in the next few days ..
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...057260,00.html

M




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