On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:52:34 -0500, "Tristán White"
wrote:

First one would mean 4 buses for there and back.

This would cost £3.00 (using PAYG).

Second one would be 2 buses and 2 train rides.

Are there barriers at Seven Kings for a PAYG?

It doesn't matter whether there are barriers - PAYG is not valid on
National Rail east of Stratford.

If not, would it be cheaper to use my Oyster PAYG for the buses to and from
Stratford, and get a cheap-day return to Seven Kings,

This would cost £1.60 + £2.90 (a total of £4.50).

or would it be
cheaper to get a paper travelcard for zones 2-6 from the corner shop before
getting on any buses?

Yes - this would cost £4.30.

You don't have to answer any of this, I'm rambling. My point is, how bloody
complicated it is when you don't want to break the law, but you don't want
to lose money to a system that is far from perfect.

Very

We're in something of a transitional phase at the moment. Once PAYG is
valid on all of National Rail in London it'll all become very simple.
(I hope.)

Thanks for the reply. Outrageous that a cheap-day return (10 minutes there,
10 minutes back) costs £2.90

Still, better than paying £1.80 twice (which is the price of the single
journey).

I wonder whether, if they brought the prices down,there'd be fewer people
fare-dodging and they'd end up making more money? It's the same as pirate
DVDs.... if a film costs £15 from the shops, is it any wonder that peeps
pay £5 in the pubs? But if they cost £7 in the shops, more people would go
for the shop-bought DVD....


In the end I'll get a 2-6 day travelcard I think... and then if I see a bus
going to Barking from the Greengate before I see one going up to Stratford,
I'll take the bus to Greengate, then realise that I'm going to end up
paying £1.30 more than had I been using PAYG, and end up going to Mile End
for a few jars afterwards just to make my conscious feel as though I'm
making good use of my travelcard and won't feel as conned. And end up
spending £20 down the pub.

Yep, that's logical.... :-))

asdf wrote:

PAYG is not valid on National Rail east of Stratford.


Upminster is east of Stratford.




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Bob

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:45:17 GMT, "Bob Wood"
wrote:

PAYG is not valid on National Rail east of Stratford.

Upminster is east of Stratford.

Oops, you're right. Perhaps I should have said it's not valid on 'one'
east of Stratford.