In article . com,
Neil Williams wrote:

That said, all this could lead to an interesting fares anomaly, in that
an off-peak travelcard and a peak single back, or a SDR and an off-peak
travelcard bought separately, may now be cheaper than the available
through ticket.

OK, how does one go about getting one of those Oyster things?

In message , at 10:26:25 on Tue, 6
Jun 2006, Sarah Brown remarked:

OK, how does one go about getting one of those Oyster things?

Not valid as far as Cambridge, yet. But you can get one if you fill in a
form at any LUL ticket office, or order online:

https://sales.oystercard.com/oyster/...action=display
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:26:25 GMT, Sarah Brown
wrote:

In article . com,
Neil Williams wrote:

That said, all this could lead to an interesting fares anomaly, in that
an off-peak travelcard and a peak single back, or a SDR and an off-peak
travelcard bought separately, may now be cheaper than the available
through ticket.

OK, how does one go about getting one of those Oyster things?

Oyster cards have a very limited applicability to the issue under
discussion. There is a limited amount of Pre-Pay acceptance on the FCC
lines across zone 1 for Thameslink and Moorgate / KX - Finsbury Park for
the Cambridge / Peterborough lines. The only other ticket in Oyster
format would be a Travelcard based season which is not affected by the
new restrictions.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

"John B" wrote in message
oups.com...

It seems a bit of a draconian restriction set for a surburban operator
- the FGW rule where cheap tickets can only be used on slow trains
(effectively also the case on the WCML with the Virgin/Silverlink
split) is more reasonable.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

I see the BBC have a story about it -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5052494.stm

As usual, it starts with the word 'commuter', which in the BBC seems to be
synonymous with 'passenger' or 'traveller'. The TOC would no doubt argue
that CDRs are not intended for regular commuter use.

Paul

Roland Perry wrote:
In message .com, at
14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter
remarked:
According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006",

The new timetable starts then.

from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day
Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no
longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate]
between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday.

Are Network Card discounted tickets still OK?

Similar restrictions have been introduced to Peterborough and on the
Thameslink route to Bedford.

Wow. If travelling from Peterborough mid morning and back between 1830
and 1900 it will be £15 cheaper to buy a walk on CDR and use GNER than
a SDR on FCC! And the journey time will be quicker too!

DERWENT New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to
Cambridge
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:04:28 +0100, Roland Perry

In message .com, at
14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter
remarked:
According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006",

The new timetable starts then.

from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day
Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no
longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate]
between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday.



Is this only for out-boundary Travel Cards or can you really not use
travel card for journeys suchas Moorgate - Finsbury Park?

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PRAR wrote:
DERWENT New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to
Cambridge
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:04:28 +0100, Roland Perry

In message .com, at
14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter
remarked:
According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006",

The new timetable starts then.

from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day
Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no
longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate]
between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday.



Is this only for out-boundary Travel Cards or can you really not use
travel card for journeys suchas Moorgate - Finsbury Park?


Journeys entirely within the travelcard area are not affected, it
says...

PaulO

In message .com, Paul
Oter writes
Journeys entirely within the travelcard area are not affected, it
says...

Indeed, as there have never been time limits on use of travelcards (once
they start to be valid after the morning peak).

But this brings in some other silly anomalies, e.g. on a slow train you
could use a 1-day travelcard bought, say, from Luton quite validly on
the crowded section from King's Cross to Elstree, but not on the section
from Elstree to Luton, where the passenger loadings will be
significantly lower.

--
Clive Page

In article ,
says...
In message .com, Paul
Oter writes
Journeys entirely within the travelcard area are not affected, it
says...

Indeed, as there have never been time limits on use of travelcards (once
they start to be valid after the morning peak).

But this brings in some other silly anomalies, e.g. on a slow train you
could use a 1-day travelcard bought, say, from Luton quite validly on
the crowded section from King's Cross to Elstree, but not on the section
from Elstree to Luton, where the passenger loadings will be
significantly lower.

Yes they are valid on this section as the FCC leaflet states:

"The return portion of these tickets is restricted if you join a
northbound train within area B of the London Travelcard Area
on the route map overleaf, but is unrestricted if you join a
northbound train in area C or D."

Elstree is in Zone C.

Could be interesting to see how they can enforce these restrictions,
since a passenger holding a Travelcard may use the service until Elstree
without restriction and passengers joining from Cricklewood travelling
North can travel without restriction.

http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...DL_Leaflet.pdf

Duncan

"PRAR" wrote in message
...
DERWENT New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to
Cambridge
Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:04:28 +0100, Roland Perry

In message .com, at
14:17:31 on Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Paul Oter
remarked:
According to a new leaflet "Ticket Changes from 11th June 2006",

The new timetable starts then.

from that date "the return portion of Cheap Day return, One (sic) Day
Travelcard (off-peak), Family Travelcard and DaySave tickets are no
longer valid on services departing from [King's Cross and Moorgate]
between 1630 and 1901 Monday to Friday.



Is this only for out-boundary Travel Cards or can you really not use
travel card for journeys suchas Moorgate - Finsbury Park?

As I read the leaflet you can use any ODTC, including an out-boundary one,
for an evening peak journey entirely within the Travelcard zones.

Peter