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Default New evening ticket restrictions from King's Cross to Cambridge

In article . com,
Neil Williams wrote:

That said, all this could lead to an interesting fares anomaly, in that
an off-peak travelcard and a peak single back, or a SDR and an off-peak
travelcard bought separately, may now be cheaper than the available
through ticket.


OK, how does one go about getting one of those Oyster things?



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Jun 2006, Sarah Brown remarked:

OK, how does one go about getting one of those Oyster things?


Not valid as far as Cambridge, yet. But you can get one if you fill in a
form at any LUL ticket office, or order online:

https://sales.oystercard.com/oyster/...action=display
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Roland Perry wrote:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)


I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey

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C! wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)


I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey


A house in Cambridge. Knock at door, circa 10pm
"Excuse me, sir, but it seems that you have abandoned your journey.
Please come with us, so we can put you on a train to Ely."

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04:17:05 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, C! remarked:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)


I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey


I think I'd need to see the actual rule in black and white before
commenting further. It's possible that you can leave the station freely,
and that the only restriction is on re-entering; but what do the words
say?
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In message .com, at
04:21:56 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Sam Holloway
remarked:
I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey which
is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if you left,
came back, and continued the journey


A house in Cambridge. Knock at door, circa 10pm
"Excuse me, sir, but it seems that you have abandoned your journey.
Please come with us, so we can put you on a train to Ely."


Airlines have attempted to surcharge people who buy a cheaper ticket
than only use part of it (they regard it as fraud). And they are usually
quite fierce about cancelling the whole ticket if you fail to turn up at
the origin [eg failing to do London-Paris on a London-Paris-New York
ticket.]

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Roland Perry wrote:

In message .com,
at 04:17:05 on Tue, 6 Jun 2006, C!
remarked:
Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are
they allowed on the return half of a CDR?)


I thought exiting at Cambridge would be "abandoning" the journey
which is allowed at any station en-route. IIRC a BOJ would be if
you left, came back, and continued the journey


I think I'd need to see the actual rule in black and white before
commenting further.


That's breaking the spirit of cam.*, where everyone comments
knowledgeably on everything :-)

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Roland Perry wrote:

Exiting at Cambridge in the evening is a Break of Journey (are they
allowed on the return half of a CDR?)


They're allowed on both halves, except a few specific flows where there
is a specific restriction prohibiting it.

It's never been clear whether or not joining at Cambridge in the morning
is also a BOJ or not.


This is the trouble...

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On 6 Jun 2006 05:22:09 -0700, Neil Williams wrote:

It's never been clear whether or not joining at Cambridge in the morning
is also a BOJ or not.


This is the trouble...


NCoC:

"'Break your journey' means leaving a Train Company's or Rail Service
Company's premises after you start your journey other than to:

-Join a train at another station, or

-Stay in overnight accommodation when you cannot reasonably complete
your journey within one day, or

-comply with directions of Train Company's staff."


I think it's quite clear that starting at Cambridge on an Ely-London
ticket doesn't fit the definition of a BoJ.
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In message , at 14:18:01 on
Tue, 6 Jun 2006, asdf remarked:
NCoC:

"'Break your journey' means leaving a Train Company's or Rail Service
Company's premises after you start your journey other than to:

-Join a train at another station, or

-Stay in overnight accommodation when you cannot reasonably complete
your journey within one day, or

-comply with directions of Train Company's staff."

I think it's quite clear that starting at Cambridge on an Ely-London
ticket doesn't fit the definition of a BoJ.


But abandoning the journey does appear to fit that definition.

Although leaving the premises at the end of your journey isn't mentioned
either, and that's not a BoJ
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