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St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
Larry Lard wrote: wrote: John Rowland wrote: John B wrote: wrote: BARONS COURT / Barons Court (not so much an anomaly as simply both being wrong, with the absence of an apostrophe) PARSONS GREEN / Parsons Green (ditto) "To court" is a verb, and barons is a legitimate plural...having "green" as a verb would be pushing it a bit, though. You can write "persons unknown" or "malice aforethought", so why not "parsons green"? Because the green is that of the parson, i.e. it belongs (or historically did) belong to the parson whose church is on its Western side, hence a possessive noun, requiring an apostrophe. Methinks Mr Rowland might be aware of that. "Persons unknown" is not a possessive noun, i.e. the "unknown" is not the property of the "persons", The word "unknown" in this context is an adjective, simply describing the type of persons, i.e. "unknown persons". Indeed it is less than a month since AWAD (www.wordsmith.org) had 'postpositive adjectives' as its weekly theme, giving us: manque, redux, redivivus, emeritus, and regnant. I'm not sure what maliceaforethought (apart from being a rather ugly combination and probably gramatically wrong, but accepted through common usage) has to do with it! It's two words - malice aforethought - another postpositive adjectival use. Poetically one can put any adjective one pleases postpositively, eg "It came upon a midnight clear" -- Larry Lard Replies to group please Sorry, Larry it was a mistake on my part to make malice aforethought into one word! As a lawyer, I put forward the excuse that I have only ever seen the word aforthought preceded by the word malice, and had subconsciously conjoined them into one word! Here's another thread, then, for the literary-minded members of this forum: what other words have you ever seen preceding the word aforethought? Love aforethought? Wonder aforethought? Spite aforethought? Awe aforethought? Answers please..... Marc. |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
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St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
"John Rowland" wrote in message Why not? About five tube stations are named after pubs, and a pub called "Everything in the garden is green and lovely" is not too hard to imagine... or is it? Surely some pub names are not noun phrases? I've never seen a pub name that was not a noun phrase. If you can find one, I'd be well interested. Oh.. Actually, yes, there's The Case Is Altered at Fosdyke. Richard [in SG19] -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
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St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
Richard M Willis wrote:
"thoss" wrote in message Have you ever seen a green parson? Yes. The parson at the place where I used to live dutifully grew his own veggies, composted the waste therefrom, never used styrofoam cups, and had no car. Did you live between Fulham Broadway and Putney Bridge, perchance...? -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
Richard M Willis wrote:
Why not? About five tube stations are named after pubs, and a pub called "Everything in the garden is green and lovely" is not too hard to imagine... or is it? Surely some pub names are not noun phrases? I've never seen a pub name that was not a noun phrase. If you can find one, I'd be well interested. Oh.. Actually, yes, there's The Case Is Altered at Fosdyke. In London... Ain't Nothing But Blues in Soho The Defectors Weld at Shepherd's Bush Dicey's The Galway Hooker at Neasden Dream Bags Jaguar Shoes at Hoxton Ha! Ha! in various places Hung, Drawn & Quartered at Tower Hill Liberty Bounds at Tower Hill Monkey Chews at Primrose Hill 1802 at West India Quay Rock The Boat at Waterloo Tally Ho in Finchley ....not counting single-not-nouns like Imbibe and Lush (well, technically Lush is a noun, but I doubt that's the sense they're going for...) -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
John B wrote:
I've never seen a pub name that was not a noun phrase. If you can find one, I'd be well interested. ...single-not-nouns like Imbibe and Lush (well, technically Lush is a noun, but I doubt that's the sense they're going for...) I'd say that's exactly the sense they are going for. |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
Richard M Willis wrote:
I've never seen a pub name that was not a noun phrase. If you can find one, I'd be well interested. Oh.. Actually, yes, there's The Case Is Altered at Fosdyke. In Peep Show, Super Hans wanted to call his pub "Free The Paedos". |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, John B wrote:
John Rowland wrote: I've never seen a pub name that was not a noun phrase. If you can find one, I'd be well interested. ...single-not-nouns like Imbibe and Lush (well, technically Lush is a noun, but I doubt that's the sense they're going for...) I'd say that's exactly the sense they are going for. Not sure about that - it's not exactly a Walkabout-ish "how much can I drink before I go to hospital" venue. I think they're going for lush-as-adjective; I doubt its Young And Beautiful target audience even know "lush" in its 70's-term-for-****head sense. My housemates (barring one Scot) didn't know that meaning. I don't know if they're the target audience; they're young, though, so that's at least one out of two. tom -- Programming is a skill best acquired by practice and example rather than from books -- Alan Turing |
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