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umpston wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?


Next question... suppose road works close a 10 yard section of a
red route, and the surrounding half-mile section between the
nearest major traffic lights becomes "access only", would the red
route restrictions still apply on the semi-deserted section?


Yes, unless TfL have agreed otherwise.


If it's a planned closure, it would be authorised by a Traffic Order,
which might also alter the stopping/waiting restrictions.
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Richard J. wrote:
umpston wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

Next question... suppose road works close a 10 yard section of a
red route, and the surrounding half-mile section between the
nearest major traffic lights becomes "access only", would the red
route restrictions still apply on the semi-deserted section?


Yes, unless TfL have agreed otherwise.


If it's a planned closure, it would be authorised by a Traffic Order,
which might also alter the stopping/waiting restrictions.
--


such a temporary Traffic Order (or Temporary Traffic Notice) would
probably include a phrase like "at such times as the appropriate
regulatory signs are displayed or covered". Therefore if the existing
red-route signs remain visible, and no alternative signs displayed, it
is best to assume the red-route restrictions remain enforceable.
Sometimes there may be a general 'enforcement suspension' or a
dispensation (for specific vehicles) along a length of road to allow
for road-works or a special event. Residents or businesses might be
informed of this but unless signs are displayed the only way to find
out is to ask the Traffic Authority (which is TfL for Red-Routes, and
the Boroughs for most other roads in London).

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umpston wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
umpston wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

Next question... suppose road works close a 10 yard section of a
red route, and the surrounding half-mile section between the
nearest major traffic lights becomes "access only", would the red
route restrictions still apply on the semi-deserted section?

Yes, unless TfL have agreed otherwise.


If it's a planned closure, it would be authorised by a Traffic Order,
which might also alter the stopping/waiting restrictions.
--


such a temporary Traffic Order (or Temporary Traffic Notice) would
probably include a phrase like "at such times as the appropriate
regulatory signs are displayed or covered". Therefore if the existing
red-route signs remain visible, and no alternative signs displayed, it
is best to assume the red-route restrictions remain enforceable.
Sometimes there may be a general 'enforcement suspension' or a
dispensation (for specific vehicles) along a length of road to allow
for road-works or a special event. Residents or businesses might be
informed of this but unless signs are displayed the only way to find
out is to ask the Traffic Authority (which is TfL for Red-Routes, and
the Boroughs for most other roads in London).


My last sentence should have read "Residents or businesses might be
informed of this but unless signs are displayed the only way for anyone
else to find out is to ask the Traffic Authority (which is TfL for
Red-Routes, and the Boroughs for most other roads in London)."

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