Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in London, showing
hours of operation?

John Rowland wrote:
Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

There's a map of the TfL Road Network, which I think is the same as Red
Routes nowadays, at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/map_overview.shtml

It doesn't show "hours of operation", but that's not a simple concept
anyway. Along a Red Route, you are likely to have various different
times and restrictions applying to particular lengths of kerb, including
loading and parking bays, just as for other roads.

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Richard J.
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Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

There's a map of the TfL Road Network, which I think is the same as Red
Routes nowadays, at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/map_overview.shtml

It doesn't show "hours of operation", but that's not a simple concept
anyway. Along a Red Route, you are likely to have various different
times and restrictions applying to particular lengths of kerb, including
loading and parking bays, just as for other roads.


The concept of Red-routes pre-dated TfL (a 'Traffic Director for
London' was appointed to implement them). The RedRoutes formed the
basis of The TRL Road Network but this also includes a number of
'strategic' routes which are not red-routes.

There is a virtually unreadable map of the red-route network at:
www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/red-route-map.shtml

As Richard says the restrictions along red-routes are many and varied
however most are based around a Monday-Saturday 7am-7pm 'no stopping'
general restriction; with loading or short-term parking allowed only in
specifically signed bays (times in these bays may vary to allow, for
example, tidal flows at peak hours). The other main variation is the
'Red Route Clearway' (no stopping at any time), which are mainly on
dual carriageways.

umpston wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

There's a map of the TfL Road Network, which I think is the same
as Red Routes nowadays, at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/map_overview.shtml

It doesn't show "hours of operation", but that's not a simple
concept anyway. Along a Red Route, you are likely to have various
different times and restrictions applying to particular lengths of
kerb, including loading and parking bays, just as for other roads.


The concept of Red-routes pre-dated TfL (a 'Traffic Director for
London' was appointed to implement them). The RedRoutes formed the
basis of The TRL Road Network but this also includes a number of
'strategic' routes which are not red-routes.

Such as ...?

According to TfL Street Management*, "Streets [aka TfL Street
Management] is responsible for the 580 km of the Transport for London
Road Network (TLRN), recognisable as London's 'Red Routes'".

* http://www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/street_facts.shtml

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:
umpston wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

There's a map of the TfL Road Network, which I think is the same
as Red Routes nowadays, at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/map_overview.shtml

It doesn't show "hours of operation", but that's not a simple
concept anyway. Along a Red Route, you are likely to have various
different times and restrictions applying to particular lengths of
kerb, including loading and parking bays, just as for other roads.


The concept of Red-routes pre-dated TfL (a 'Traffic Director for
London' was appointed to implement them). The RedRoutes formed the
basis of The TRL Road Network but this also includes a number of
'strategic' routes which are not red-routes.

Such as ...?

According to TfL Street Management*, "Streets [aka TfL Street
Management] is responsible for the 580 km of the Transport for London
Road Network (TLRN), recognisable as London's 'Red Routes'".

* http://www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/street_facts.shtml


yes you're right - I was getting mixed up with the idea of "strategic
routes" in London - some of which are not TLRN or red routes.

umpston wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

There is a virtually unreadable map of the red-route network at:
www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/red-route-map.shtml

Thanks, that's great!

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(John Rowland) wrote:

umpston wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Is it possible to acquire a list or map of all Red Routes in
London, showing hours of operation?

There is a virtually unreadable map of the red-route network at:
www.tfl.gov.uk/streets/red-route-map.shtml

Thanks, that's great!

Are you some kind of masochist? It's unreadable!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

umpston wrote:

The concept of Red-routes pre-dated TfL (a 'Traffic Director for
London' was appointed to implement them). The RedRoutes formed the
basis of The TRL Road Network but this also includes a number of
'strategic' routes which are not red-routes.


Not quite correct. All of the roads in TfL Road Network are now Red
Routes. There were some strategic roads added to the TDfL's Red Route
Network when TfL was formed in 2000, but these were fairly quickly
converted to Red Routes.

umpston wrote:

The concept of Red-routes pre-dated TfL (a 'Traffic Director for
London' was appointed to implement them). The RedRoutes formed the
basis of The TRL Road Network but this also includes a number of
'strategic' routes which are not red-routes.


Not quite correct. All of the roads in TfL Road Network are now Red
Routes. There were some strategic roads added to the TDfL's Red Route
Network when TfL was formed in 2000, but these were fairly quickly
converted to Red Routes.

Peter Heather wrote:
umpston wrote:

The concept of Red-routes pre-dated TfL (a 'Traffic Director for
London' was appointed to implement them). The RedRoutes formed the
basis of The TFL Road Network but this also includes a number of
'strategic' routes which are not red-routes.


Not quite correct. All of the roads in TfL Road Network are now Red
Routes. There were some strategic roads added to the TDfL's Red Route
Network when TfL was formed in 2000, but these were fairly quickly
converted to Red Routes.

Acknowledged - I was also thinking of the concept of the 'stategic
routes' in London; as defined under the Traffic Management Act 2004.
Many of these are not Red Routes/TfL Network. But I can't find a map
of them.

So the two (different) maps Richard & I found presumably show the same
network; though I'm not going to risk my eyesight in checking the
details!