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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:51:08 +0100, Demiurge wrote:
From September 11th I'll be travelling from East Croydon to Brixton (train from E.Croydon to Victoria, then tube to Brixton), peak times, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. I'm planning to buy a one-day travel card each day (£10.40 per day). Would Oyster be of any use to me, i.e. reduce my costs at all? I've never used it before. In a word, no. However, you would be able to reduce your costs by avoiding travelling through Zone 1. Possible routes would be: East Croydon - Clapham Junction - Vauxhall - Brixton East Croydon - Balham - Stockwell - Brixton East Croydon - Herne Hill - Brixton (not many trains on these routes) East Croydon - Beckenham Junction (Tramlink) - Brixton This would enable you to travel on a Z2-6 Peak One Day Travelcard at £7.40 per day. For the routes that involve NR and Tube, you could get a return ticket rather than a Travelcard for £6.80 (Z2-5 "Tube/DLR - Train" fare). If you use the route via Herne Hill (you may also have to change at Tulse Hill), you could use a Standard Day Return which would cost £3.80. HTH |
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asdf wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:51:08 +0100, Demiurge wrote: From September 11th I'll be travelling from East Croydon to Brixton (train from E.Croydon to Victoria, then tube to Brixton), peak times, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. I'm planning to buy a one-day travel card each day (£10.40 per day). Would Oyster be of any use to me, i.e. reduce my costs at all? I've never used it before. In a word, no. However, you would be able to reduce your costs by avoiding travelling through Zone 1. Possible routes would be: East Croydon - Clapham Junction - Vauxhall - Brixton East Croydon - Balham - Stockwell - Brixton East Croydon - Herne Hill - Brixton (not many trains on these routes) East Croydon - Beckenham Junction (Tramlink) - Brixton This would enable you to travel on a Z2-6 Peak One Day Travelcard at £7.40 per day. The TfL Journeyplanner also shows an alternative route of train E. Croydon - Tulse Hill and then bus 2 or 432 to Brixton. It estimates this journey time 00:36 so if it is correct it would not take longer time than train/tube via Victoria. With this train-bus route a Z3-5 7-day travelcard will save some more money because it costs £18.40. Divided by 3 days that is about £6.13 a day. Then, a few pounds more can be saved by buying monthly or longer travelcards. -- Olof Lagerkvist ICQ: 724451 Web: http://here.is/olof |
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![]() Olof Lagerkvist wrote: ... you would be able to reduce your costs by avoiding travelling through Zone 1. Possible routes would be: East Croydon - Clapham Junction - Vauxhall - Brixton East Croydon - Balham - Stockwell - Brixton East Croydon - Herne Hill - Brixton (not many trains on these routes) East Croydon - Beckenham Junction (Tramlink) - Brixton This would enable you to travel on a Z2-6 Peak One Day Travelcard at £7.40 per day. The TfL Journeyplanner also shows an alternative route of train E. Croydon - Tulse Hill and then bus 2 or 432 to Brixton. It estimates this journey time 00:36 so if it is correct it would not take longer time than train/tube via Victoria. With this train-bus route a Z3-5 7-day travelcard will save some more money because it costs £18.40. Divided by 3 days that is about £6.13 a day. Then, a few pounds more can be saved by buying monthly or longer travelcards. Olof, thanks for all your suggestions - I will try these out to see which suits best. Regards, Demiurge. |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:26:16 +0100, asdf
wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:51:08 +0100, Demiurge wrote: From September 11th I'll be travelling from East Croydon to Brixton (train from E.Croydon to Victoria, then tube to Brixton), peak times, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. I'm planning to buy a one-day travel card each day (£10.40 per day). Would Oyster be of any use to me, i.e. reduce my costs at all? I've never used it before. In a word, no. However, you would be able to reduce your costs by avoiding travelling through Zone 1. Possible routes would be: East Croydon - Clapham Junction - Vauxhall - Brixton East Croydon - Balham - Stockwell - Brixton East Croydon - Herne Hill - Brixton (not many trains on these routes) East Croydon - Beckenham Junction (Tramlink) - Brixton This would enable you to travel on a Z2-6 Peak One Day Travelcard at £7.40 per day. Or shock, horror travel to Herne Hill and then get a bus (3, 37 or 196) across to Brixton. This gives 20 buses per hour on that stretch. For the real cheapo option you could simply get a 109 bus from Croydon to Brixton using Oyster Pre-Pay and pay £1 in the morning peak and 80p on the way home. I accept this is only an option if you have the time to spare for a longer journey. Buses run every 6 mins for most of the day. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
Or shock, horror travel to Herne Hill and then get a bus (3, 37 or 196) across to Brixton. This gives 20 buses per hour on that stretch. For the real cheapo option you could simply get a 109 bus from Croydon to Brixton using Oyster Pre-Pay and pay £1 in the morning peak and 80p on the way home. I accept this is only an option if you have the time to spare for a longer journey. Buses run every 6 mins for most of the day. Thanks for the advice. I read an article in the Croydon Advertiser calling route 109 and 250 the "routes to Hell", as supposedly there is often trouble on these route, the sound of which puts me off - but it never specified what kind of trouble. Have you heard anything of this? Demiurge. |
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:39:16 +0100, "Demiurge" wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote: Or shock, horror travel to Herne Hill and then get a bus (3, 37 or 196) across to Brixton. This gives 20 buses per hour on that stretch. For the real cheapo option you could simply get a 109 bus from Croydon to Brixton using Oyster Pre-Pay and pay £1 in the morning peak and 80p on the way home. I accept this is only an option if you have the time to spare for a longer journey. Buses run every 6 mins for most of the day. Thanks for the advice. I read an article in the Croydon Advertiser calling route 109 and 250 the "routes to Hell", as supposedly there is often trouble on these route, the sound of which puts me off - but it never specified what kind of trouble. Have you heard anything of this? There has been a load of very ill informed commentary about the volume of radio calls from buses to the control room called "code reds". The Standard tried, badly IMO, the link the volume of such calls with a picture of utter anarchy and wanton violence on bendy bus routes. They failed completely to mention that a code red call can be for a full range of issues including those removed from the bus e.g. requesting the emergency services for a road accident that has happened in front of a bus but not involving it. They also completely failed to mention that bendy bus routes are amongst the very busiest in London and statistically you are more likely to get more "code reds" simply by virtue of the fact that there are huge volumes of passengers. The local newspapers have picked up on the Standard's lead and egged on by mindless local councillors have been whipping up the same story in local rags. I am not aware of any specific problems with the 109 and 250. If I wished to indulge in a stereotypical commentary I could say that Brixton is a down at heel, crime ridden ghetto and therefore some of that crime must therefore transfer to the bus system. However that would be a gross exaggeration. You can encounter crime anywhere in London and sometimes it spills on to the bus and rail network - if you wish to avoid it then don't use public transport but then you are not immune if you lock yourself away in a car either. I travel all over the place by public transport and I cannot recall ever being the victim of crime. Provided you are sensible and street wise then I think it is perfectly OK to use public transport - in just the same way as you need to be sensible and street wise when walking down the street. The bus may well be a slow option compared to the train but it is cheap and services are very frequent - only you can make the judgement about how best to balance your travelling needs, time and money. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Thanks for your opinions, Paul. I'll try the bus and see what I think, as I
have the time. I'm always keen t osave some money! Regards, Demiurge. "Paul Corfield" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:39:16 +0100, "Demiurge" wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: Or shock, horror travel to Herne Hill and then get a bus (3, 37 or 196) across to Brixton. This gives 20 buses per hour on that stretch. For the real cheapo option you could simply get a 109 bus from Croydon to Brixton using Oyster Pre-Pay and pay £1 in the morning peak and 80p on the way home. I accept this is only an option if you have the time to spare for a longer journey. Buses run every 6 mins for most of the day. Thanks for the advice. I read an article in the Croydon Advertiser calling route 109 and 250 the "routes to Hell", as supposedly there is often trouble on these route, the sound of which puts me off - but it never specified what kind of trouble. Have you heard anything of this? There has been a load of very ill informed commentary about the volume of radio calls from buses to the control room called "code reds". The Standard tried, badly IMO, to link the volume of such calls with a picture of utter anarchy and wanton violence on bendy bus routes. They failed completely to mention that a code red call can be for a full range of issues including those removed from the bus e.g. requesting the emergency services for a road accident that has happened in front of a bus but not involving it. They also completely failed to mention that bendy bus routes are amongst the very busiest in London and statistically you are more likely to get more "code reds" simply by virtue of the fact that there are huge volumes of passengers. The local newspapers have picked up on the Standard's lead and egged on by mindless local councillors have been whipping up the same story in local rags. I am not aware of any specific problems with the 109 and 250. If I wished to indulge in a stereotypical commentary I could say that Brixton is a down at heel, crime ridden ghetto and therefore some of that crime must therefore transfer to the bus system. However that would be a gross exaggeration. You can encounter crime anywhere in London and sometimes it spills on to the bus and rail network - if you wish to avoid it then don't use public transport but then you are not immune if you lock yourself away in a car either. I travel all over the place by public transport and I cannot recall ever being the victim of crime. Provided you are sensible and street wise then I think it is perfectly OK to use public transport - in just the same way as you need to be sensible and street wise when walking down the street. The bus may well be a slow option compared to the train but it is cheap and services are very frequent - only you can make the judgement about how best to balance your travelling needs, time and money. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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