I have been informed that it is being, or has been, dismantled at Theobalds
Grove and will shortly be reinstated at or near its original location
between the Strand and Fleet Street.

--
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Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

I have been informed that it is being, or has been, dismantled at Theobalds
Grove and will shortly be reinstated at or near its original location
between the Strand and Fleet Street.


My understanding is that it will be re-erected in or near Paternoster Square,
to the North West of the front entrance of St. Paul's Cathedral.

It can't go back in Fleet Street (sadly, in my view) because the traffic
wouldn't get through.

It was also offered to Middle and Inner Temple, to erect at the South end of
Middle Temple Lane, but we turned it down (I was a member of the Middle Temple
Estates Committee at the time) because it would have cost us over £1 million to
erect it there, and in any event it would have detracted from the attractive
gothic Temple Gardens building which straddles Middle Temple Lane thereabouts.

Marc.

From: "John Rowland"
Date: 31/07/2003 20:13 GMT Daylight Time

I have been informed that it is being, or has been, dismantled at Theobalds
Grove and will shortly be reinstated at or near its original location
between the Strand and Fleet Street.

Erm, Theobalds Park please. Theobalds Grove is a railway station about 2 miles
away from there. Careful stone-by-stone removal is currently in progress, but
much of the structure still remains intact (a bit fragile, so they need to be
very careful how they do it).

I'm not at all surprised Temple Bar is a bit fragile as its been sitting
totally neglected in those woods for ... oh, it had been there ages when
I was a kid round there 50 years ago! Good to see that it's going back
into central London; it was wasted in those woods.

*Keith*

From: (Keith Marshall)
Date: 01/08/2003 19:13 GMT Daylight Time

I'm not at all surprised Temple Bar is a bit fragile as its been sitting
totally neglected in those woods for ... oh, it had been there ages when
I was a kid round there 50 years ago! Good to see that it's going back
into central London; it was wasted in those woods.

I think its been there since the 1880s. Old photos of it from betweeen 1920 and
about 1960 show it to have been in pretty good condition. The rot set in in a
big way after that, not helped by vandalism aided by its isolation. Even a high
concrete fence didn't help.

I took some photos of it in the mid-eighties, and it was looking pretty down at
heel then. Things are even worse now, so the prospect of it in the middle of
Paternoster Square all spruced up and giving the place a bit of character can
only be welcomed.

One small problem though. Will the "Temple Bar" pub in Waltham Cross High
Street still keep its name? Or will that be moved too?!

In article , John Rowland
writes
I have been informed that it is being, or has been, dismantled at Theobalds
Grove and will shortly be reinstated at or near its original location
between the Strand and Fleet Street.
Er ,if they put it back *at* its original location that could have a -
to say the least - "dramatic" effect on traffic between the Strand and
Fleet Street. "Nearby" I can believe, "at" I suspect is unlikely.

This project has been talked about for yeas, decades, even. What's
your source, John? (Not that I'm doubting you, I hasten to add!)
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
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In article , John Rowland
writes

shortly be reinstated at or near its original location
between the Strand and Fleet Street.

What's your source, John? (Not that I'm doubting you, I hasten to add!)

An unreliable one, apparently...

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes