Peter Masson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5306886.stm

Peter

Reasonably good news, :-)

Punishment should fit the crime. I think a 1024 community hours
cleaning trains may have been more constructive. But, this is
certainly beter than the usual slap in the wrist.

Adrian.

Solario wrote:
Peter Masson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5306886.stm

Peter

Reasonably good news, :-)

Punishment should fit the crime. I think a 1024 community hours
cleaning trains may have been more constructive. But, this is
certainly beter than the usual slap in the wrist.

Adrian.

It's good to see that His Honour Judge Paul Worsley, Q.C., only
recently appointed as a Judge (and a good friend of mine) has shown his
Yorkshire commonsense and handed down a weighty sentence to these
scumbags.

Marc.

wrote:
Solario wrote:
Peter Masson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5306886.stm

Peter
Reasonably good news, :-)

Punishment should fit the crime. I think a 1024 community hours
cleaning trains may have been more constructive. But, this is
certainly beter than the usual slap in the wrist.

Adrian.

It's good to see that His Honour Judge Paul Worsley, Q.C., only
recently appointed as a Judge (and a good friend of mine) has shown his
Yorkshire commonsense and handed down a weighty sentence to these
scumbags.

Marc.


Agreed. Scumbags both of them. There's just no need for graffiti. Touch
wood so far no-one seems to have destroyed any of SWT's refurbished 455s.

Cheers

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Solario wrote:
Peter Masson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5306886.stm

Peter

Reasonably good news, :-)

Punishment should fit the crime. I think a 1024 community hours
cleaning trains may have been more constructive. But, this is
certainly beter than the usual slap in the wrist.

Adrian.

It's good to see that His Honour Judge Paul Worsley, Q.C., only
recently appointed as a Judge (and a good friend of mine) has shown his
Yorkshire commonsense and handed down a weighty sentence to these
scumbags.

Marc.


Well you can tell your good friend that I for one object to the fact that a
lot more money is now going to be spent on these scumbags having a thorough
education in every other type of crime. If you took your head out of the
pages of the Daily Mail once in a while you might discover that, in the real
world, PRISON DOESN'T WORK.

Brian.

"Brian Begg-Robertson" wrote in message
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Well you can tell your good friend that I for one object to the fact that
a lot more money is now going to be spent on these scumbags having a
thorough education in every other type of crime. If you took your head out
of the pages of the Daily Mail once in a while you might discover that, in
the real world, PRISON DOESN'T WORK.

What do you suggest instead?

--
Brian

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Begg-Robertson gently breathed:
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Solario wrote:
Peter Masson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5306886.stm
Peter

Reasonably good news, :-)

Punishment should fit the crime. I think a 1024 community hours
cleaning trains may have been more constructive. But, this is
certainly beter than the usual slap in the wrist.

It's good to see that His Honour Judge Paul Worsley, Q.C., only
recently appointed as a Judge (and a good friend of mine) has shown his
Yorkshire commonsense and handed down a weighty sentence to these
scumbags.

Well you can tell your good friend that I for one object to the fact that a
lot more money is now going to be spent on these scumbags having a thorough
education in every other type of crime. If you took your head out of the
pages of the Daily Mail once in a while you might discover that, in the real
world, PRISON DOESN'T WORK.

Indeed, this does appear to be true - though it depends on your concept
of what a prison is for.

Graffiti scum should be birched, hard. That's what they do in
Singapore, and it does work, remember all the hue and cry a few years
ago when they were going to birch an American boy who thought he was
above their laws? They have very little anti-social behaviour, simply
because they punish those who try it, in a harsh, painful, way. It's
quick, cheap, and doesn't cause any significant lasting damage. Far
better that sending them to a cushy jail where as you say, they just
learn how to do more crimes while enjoying all the "rights" we insist on
giving them, and costing about 12k a year (or is it 20k?) per prisoner
to run.

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On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 09:48:09 +0100 someone who may be Pyromancer
wrote this:-

Graffiti scum should be birched, hard.

Not allowed, I forget the reason why.

However, it might be worth glueing these scumbags to the front of a
train and taking them for a ride they are unlikely to forget,
perhaps between London and some place an hour or so away. They might
not be keen to repeat such an experience.

There would be some danger in this, but probably no more than they
expose themselves to when they carry out their "artistic"
activities. Provided passengers at the intermediate stations were
warmed beforehand the majority would probably enjoy the spectacle.

Even more of a punishment for the "artists" might be the fact that
others would laugh at them, especially when they were being attached
and removed from the train.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:15:37 +0100, David Hansen wrote:

Graffiti scum should be birched, hard.

Not allowed, I forget the reason why.

However, it might be worth glueing these scumbags to the front of a
train and taking them for a ride they are unlikely to forget,
perhaps between London and some place an hour or so away. They might
not be keen to repeat such an experience.

Are you joking? Some people would pay good money for that!

I can see it now... "Train vandalism epidemic as enthusiasts seek free
(external) cab rides"

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Solario wrote:
Peter Masson wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5306886.stm
Peter

Reasonably good news, :-)

Punishment should fit the crime. I think a 1024 community hours
cleaning trains may have been more constructive. But, this is
certainly beter than the usual slap in the wrist.

It's good to see that His Honour Judge Paul Worsley, Q.C., only
recently appointed as a Judge (and a good friend of mine) has shown his
Yorkshire commonsense and handed down a weighty sentence to these
scumbags.

Well you can tell your good friend that I for one object to the fact that
a
lot more money is now going to be spent on these scumbags having a
thorough
education in every other type of crime. If you took your head out of the
pages of the Daily Mail once in a while you might discover that, in the
real
world, PRISON DOESN'T WORK.

Indeed, this does appear to be true - though it depends on your concept
of what a prison is for.

Graffiti scum should be birched, hard. That's what they do in
Singapore, and it does work, remember all the hue and cry a few years
ago when they were going to birch an American boy who thought he was
above their laws? They have very little anti-social behaviour, simply
because they punish those who try it, in a harsh, painful, way. It's
quick, cheap, and doesn't cause any significant lasting damage. Far
better that sending them to a cushy jail where as you say, they just
learn how to do more crimes while enjoying all the "rights" we insist on
giving them, and costing about 12k a year (or is it 20k?) per prisoner
to run.

--
- DJ Pyromancer, The Sunday Goth Social, Leeds. http://www.sheepish.net

Broadband, Dialup, Domains = http://www.wytches.net = The UK's Pagan
ISP!
http://www.inkubus-sukkubus.co.uk
http://www.revival.stormshadow.com

Oh for God's sake, listen to yourselves! You just harden people like that by
giving them the birch. We have whole areas of the country where the gun is
king and people cary them knowing that to do so shortens their own life
expectancy to mid 20s if they are lucky, and you expect them to respect the
birch. Kids these days are savages. Lock them up, throw the key away,
pretend that it will make them better people. It wont!

Brian.

"Brian Begg-Robertson" wrote:

Oh for God's sake, listen to yourselves! You just harden people like that by
giving them the birch. We have whole areas of the country where the gun is
king and people cary them knowing that to do so shortens their own life
expectancy to mid 20s if they are lucky, and you expect them to respect the
birch. Kids these days are savages. Lock them up, throw the key away,
pretend that it will make them better people. It wont!

How about a day in the stocks then ? Or drenching their clothes with paint ?