In article , Jeff York
says...
Conor wrote:

My problem with Paul is that despite clear evidence to the contrary, he
will fudge whatever figures he has to to suite what is needed to get
him on TV/Radio/in the papers.

Such as?

TBH, we did it all to death a couple of years ago when he posted his
****e in here.


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David from Oz wrote:
There was an item on driving offence cameras (e.g. box junction
offences, red light offences, right turn offences, bus lane offences
etc), as following successful trials in London they are now being
rolled out nationally. Paul from Safe Speed (a regular poster on this
group) was interviewed and argued against such measures stating his
view that that they did not *prevent * such offences, merely
*punished* but did not reduce the number of offices.

Hmmm , so an increased chance of being caught doesn't act as a deterrent at
all........

I'd be interested to know what he would propose that could prevent someone
blocking a box junction.

--
Alex

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
David from Oz wrote:

There was an item on driving offence cameras (e.g. box junction
offences, red light offences, right turn offences, bus lane offences
etc), as following successful trials in London they are now being
rolled out nationally. Paul from Safe Speed (a regular poster on this
group) was interviewed and argued against such measures stating his
view that that they did not *prevent * such offences, merely
*punished* but did not reduce the number of offices.


Hmmm , so an increased chance of being caught doesn't act as a deterrent at
all........

I'd be interested to know what he would propose that could prevent someone
blocking a box junction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T...achine_gun.jpg

would probably work. Bit messy though.

Tosspot wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
David from Oz wrote:

There was an item on driving offence cameras (e.g. box junction
offences, red light offences, right turn offences, bus lane offences
etc), as following successful trials in London they are now being
rolled out nationally. Paul from Safe Speed (a regular poster on
this group) was interviewed and argued against such measures
stating his view that that they did not *prevent * such offences,
merely *punished* but did not reduce the number of offices.


Hmmm , so an increased chance of being caught doesn't act as a
deterrent at all........

I'd be interested to know what he would propose that could prevent
someone blocking a box junction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T...achine_gun.jpg

would probably work. Bit messy though.

Nice idea in theory , but the wreckage could end up blocking the junction
for far longer than a three series....

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Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!"

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
David from Oz wrote:
There was an item on driving offence cameras (e.g. box junction
offences, red light offences, right turn offences, bus lane offences
etc), as following successful trials in London they are now being
rolled out nationally. Paul from Safe Speed (a regular poster on this
group) was interviewed and argued against such measures stating his
view that that they did not *prevent * such offences, merely
*punished* but did not reduce the number of offices.

Hmmm , so an increased chance of being caught doesn't act as a deterrent at
all........

I'd be interested to know what he would propose that could prevent someone
blocking a box junction.

How about one of those electromagnet based wrecking cranes to lift the
offender out of the way so that traffic can move freely again? And
maybe leave them in the air for an hour or two as a warning to others.
I think the claw type grab might be a bit too brutal.

If you think we have a problem there are countries where traffic light
discipline is so bad that without policemen on every junction at rush
hour it all grinds to a complete standstill - think herringbone
pattern of cars in every junction all moving and hooting at random.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown wrote:

If you think we have a problem there are countries where traffic light
discipline is so bad that without policemen on every junction at rush
hour it all grinds to a complete standstill - think herringbone
pattern of cars in every junction all moving and hooting at random.

I've been at junctions where it ends up a free-for-all. The light goes
green for one road but access is obstructed, so they go on red. And
then it goes on from there - just go when you can. Many would say that
if the lights don't do their job, that's probably the best option.

Most gridlock (or starvation to be more technical) occurs where there
are two signals in close succession, such that the space between the
signals is filled quickly by one side and then the other side will have
nowhere to go. Actually this is commonly the situation at Henlys Corner
for the A406 Westbound. In the last couple of weeks they have been
resurfacing and there is currently no box junction and the approach has
become a lot emptier as a result.

On 2006-10-23, Earl Purple wrote:

Most gridlock (or starvation to be more technical) occurs where there
are two signals in close succession, such that the space between the
signals is filled quickly by one side and then the other side will have
nowhere to go. Actually this is commonly the situation at Henlys Corner
for the A406 Westbound. In the last couple of weeks they have been
resurfacing and there is currently no box junction and the approach has
become a lot emptier as a result.

Going on to the Edinburgh Bypass (A720) somewhere near Hermiston Gate
was the closest to that I've seen. A roundabout with traffic lights,
and a heavy stream of traffic at 6 o'clock (me) and 3 o'clock.

Every cycle, the traffic from 6 o'clock would stream onto the roundabout
until a red appeared on the roundabout, then stop, queued all the way
round the roundabout across my entrance. To move at all necessitated
pushing out on the red as soon as a gap appeared (and before the traffic
to the right started moving).

--
David Taylor

In article , alexNOOOOOO!!!!!!!
@drzoidberg.co.uk says...
I'd be interested to know what he would propose that could prevent someone
blocking a box junction.


All the landmines that charities have dug up.
Just re-engineer them to use RFID tags.
And if the same tag is stationary over the field for more than 2
minutes.
Boom, Kablamie
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David from Oz wrote:

rolled out nationally. Paul from Safe Speed (a regular poster on this
group)

Which group? Has he been using an alias?

surely as all the boy racers who have been complaining that speed cameras
only catch people who drive "safely" at 70mph in town and 120 on motorways
should be glad that all misdemeanours will be caught on camera ?

Now come the new excuses --------------