Clive D. W. Feather wrote:
In article . com,
umpston writes
In the old building next door to the station site there is a very nice
pancake restaurant called 'My Old Dutch'. I once heard a rumour that
trains are audible from the basement loos but I've never been able to
hear them.

I have.


I guess you must have been there when the restaurant was quiet! All I
could hear was the gurgling of the cistern and the revelling of my
fellow diners.

So perhaps there IS a forgotten trapdoor with a rusty padlock
underneath the loos in My Old Dutch!

umpston wrote:
alex_t wrote:
I wonder, is there any official way to see some closed stations like
Aldwych or destroyed ones like British Museum? (for the purpose of
non-commercial photographing by tube enthusiast ;-)

LT museum used to do occasional tours of Aldwych and Down St. but not
in recent years. Some say this is for 'security' reasons; others have
said it is due to Health & Safety considerations - these places are,
after all, dark dirty and dangerous. So I guess your options are
getting a track/tunnel maintenance job or hiring Aldwych station -
which is frequently used for filming.

Aldwych station also used to be used as an art gallery; I can
definitely remember an exhibition happening there around 1995/96. This
was, of course, only shortly after the closure, so the station may no
longer be suitable for that sort of thing.

Patrick

wrote:

Aldwych station also used to be used as an art gallery; I can
definitely remember an exhibition happening there around 1995/96. This
was, of course, only shortly after the closure, so the station may no
longer be suitable for that sort of thing.

I went to one in 2003, although it was very dark in some parts.

On 7 Dec 2006 10:21:34 -0800, "umpston" wrote:

alex_t wrote:
I wonder, is there any official way to see some closed stations like
Aldwych or destroyed ones like British Museum? (for the purpose of
non-commercial photographing by tube enthusiast ;-)

LT museum used to do occasional tours of Aldwych and Down St. but not
in recent years. Some say this is for 'security' reasons; others have
said it is due to Health & Safety considerations - these places are,
after all, dark dirty and dangerous. So I guess your options are
getting a track/tunnel maintenance job or hiring Aldwych station -
which is frequently used for filming.

The most interesting part of Aldwych station was not the bit you get
if you hire it for filming (since to be honest it just looks like any
other but maybe slightly dated tube platform, which is what filmmakers
want!). No, the other platform that was closed for decades, and the
tunnels to/from it, behind the lift shaft, were much more interesting,
as they were much more "frozen in time" than the more recently closed
parts. There's a few pictures on the sites you linked, showing some of
the areas where they tried out different station finishes, but they
don't really show the whole place. There are some tunnels at Aldwych
which never opened to the public because they just ran out of money,
so they were never fitted out; I think I remember they were had the
lining rings fitted but that was about it. No nice paint, or tiles, or
even lights, and just a barely level floor!

The sites make very little mention of the passageway to Temple, which
I know is there because we walked through it on the tour I did (LT
Museum, years ago), again it was in quite a state of disrepair.

It's a shame that H&S has effectively killed these tours. I would
happily sign a piece of paper to say I'd bear all cost of any injuries
I might suffer for the chance to do the tours again.

Peter Frimberley wrote:

snip

The most interesting part of Aldwych station was not the bit you get
if you hire it for filming (since to be honest it just looks like any
other but maybe slightly dated tube platform, which is what filmmakers
want!). No, the other platform that was closed for decades, and the
tunnels to/from it, behind the lift shaft, were much more interesting,
as they were much more "frozen in time" than the more recently closed
parts. There's a few pictures on the sites you linked, showing some of
the areas where they tried out different station finishes, but they
don't really show the whole place. There are some tunnels at Aldwych
which never opened to the public because they just ran out of money,
so they were never fitted out; I think I remember they were had the
lining rings fitted but that was about it. No nice paint, or tiles, or
even lights, and just a barely level floor!

The sites make very little mention of the passageway to Temple, which
I know is there because we walked through it on the tour I did (LT
Museum, years ago), again it was in quite a state of disrepair.


OK - it's the last sentence I'm interested in - the Aldwych to Temple
passageway you talk of.

I ask as your post was the first I'd ever heard of it. I can find no
references to it's existence on the web, and searching usenet has thus
far only led to various threads where contributors talk of past plans
for foot tunnel that never came to fruition.

Such talk does however focus on the possibility of a proper interchange
tunnel for passenger use - whilst the passageway you speak of isn't
public.

If anyone has further information on this please get involved!

In message .com,
Mizter T writes
OK - it's the last sentence I'm interested in - the Aldwych to Temple
passageway you talk of.

I ask as your post was the first I'd ever heard of it.

I'd not heard of it either. I managed to get on a tour of Aldwych a
couple of years ago where we got to see both of the platforms, the one
used for filming and the other one which looks untouched for decades.
They also allowed us to walk some way along one of the rail tunnels
towards Holborn - we gave up when we got bored by the lack of scenery I
think. And while we saw a lot of the deep tunnels - almost all I'd have
said - and discussed the reasons why it was impractical to continue the
running tunnels any further towards the Thames, there was no mention of
any connection to Temple.

--
Clive Page

alex_t wrote:

I wonder, is there any official way to see some closed stations like
Aldwych or destroyed ones like British Museum? (for the purpose of
non-commercial photographing by tube enthusiast ;-)

The official LUL Infrastructure Map covers 16 disused stations and a
couple of other probably interesting places on the LUL network.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/downloads...ructureMap.pdf

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof

"Olof Lagerkvist" wrote in message
...
alex_t wrote:

I wonder, is there any official way to see some closed stations like
Aldwych or destroyed ones like British Museum? (for the purpose of
non-commercial photographing by tube enthusiast ;-)

The official LUL Infrastructure Map covers 16 disused stations and a
couple of other probably interesting places on the LUL network.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/downloads...ructureMap.pdf


Does anyone know why the (non infraco) branch from Queens Park to Kilburn
High Road is shown? Do Bakerloo line trains get along there at all?

Paul

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:49:39 -0000, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Does anyone know why the (non infraco) branch from Queens Park to Kilburn
High Road is shown? Do Bakerloo line trains get along there at all?

I understand that LU have running rights over that section if they need
to turn trains without jamming up the points and sheds at Queens Park.
This is part of the overall access agreement with Network Rail for
Bakerloo trains on the surface section which is all on NR tracks.

I think this was used yesterday when there was a train failure at Queens
Park and the line had to run in two sections for a while. I don't
believe passengers are carried over this section though.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:49:39 -0000, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Does anyone know why the (non infraco) branch from Queens Park to Kilburn
High Road is shown? Do Bakerloo line trains get along there at all?

I understand that LU have running rights over that section if they need
to turn trains without jamming up the points and sheds at Queens Park.
This is part of the overall access agreement with Network Rail for
Bakerloo trains on the surface section which is all on NR tracks.

I think this was used yesterday when there was a train failure at Queens
Park and the line had to run in two sections for a while. I don't
believe passengers are carried over this section though.

Thanks Paul, quick as ever...

Paul S