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On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me. The (Silverlink) "security" guard backed him up
shouting "What's it to do with you? How is it your business if he's
got a ticket?" at me.
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Rob Hamadi wrote:
On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me.


Tip for the future. In London NEVER confront anybody! Let him
squeeze through, and the authorities deal with him if they see him.
As you really could end up getting stabbed by a nutter.
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On Feb 17, 3:52 pm, "Stevo" wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me.


Tip for the future. In London NEVER confront anybody! Let him
squeeze through, and the authorities deal with him if they see him.
As you really could end up getting stabbed by a nutter.


Thanks for the concern Stevo, but the fact that the man turned out to
be a sh*t didn't really come as much of a surprise. What did annoy me
was the attitude of the so-called security operative, who basically
made the decision to come out in support of the criminal who was
defrauding his employers and threatening one of their customers.
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On 17 Feb, 15:52, "Stevo" wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me.


Tip for the future. In London NEVER confront anybody! Let him
squeeze through, and the authorities deal with him if they see him.
As you really could end up getting stabbed by a nutter.



I disagree. If your policy is to never confront anyone (and when I say
confront this can merely mean a polite and queit word with someone)
then it's carte blanche for anyone who feels like it to take the ****
with no come. Obviously any one situation has to be addressed
individually according to specific circumstances - note that I'm not
saying one should *always* confront the person(s), just saying that I
think it's a bit pathetic to decide that one will *never* confront
anyone.

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Mizter T wrote:
On 17 Feb, 15:52, "Stevo" wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me.


Tip for the future. In London NEVER confront anybody! Let him
squeeze through, and the authorities deal with him if they see him.
As you really could end up getting stabbed by a nutter.



I disagree. If your policy is to never confront anyone (and when I say
confront this can merely mean a polite and queit word with someone)
then it's carte blanche for anyone who feels like it to take the ****
with no come. Obviously any one situation has to be addressed
individually according to specific circumstances - note that I'm not
saying one should *always* confront the person(s), just saying that I
think it's a bit pathetic to decide that one will *never* confront
anyone.


How you act is up to you. But I wouldn't confront anyone just becuase
they were slipping through a barrier behind me at a train station!





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On 18 Feb, 01:32, "Stevo" wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
On 17 Feb, 15:52, "Stevo" wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me.


Tip for the future. In London NEVER confront anybody! Let him
squeeze through, and the authorities deal with him if they see him.
As you really could end up getting stabbed by a nutter.


I disagree. If your policy is to never confront anyone (and when I say
confront this can merely mean a polite and queit word with someone)
then it's carte blanche for anyone who feels like it to take the ****
with no come. Obviously any one situation has to be addressed
individually according to specific circumstances - note that I'm not
saying one should *always* confront the person(s), just saying that I
think it's a bit pathetic to decide that one will *never* confront
anyone.


How you act is up to you. But I wouldn't confront anyone just becuase
they were slipping through a barrier behind me at a train station!



Of course it's not really something to get that worked up about given
the bigger picture, and yes I would probably leave it be (not least
because it a few moments to actually realise what happened, if you
realise at all - that said it's only happened to me a couple of times,
probably because I'm not really a suitably diminutive target!).

Nonetheless though, as I said earlier I quite disagree with operating
a blanket policy of non-intervention and non-confrontation in public,
but I'll just leave it at that.

To finish on a lighter note - I have had a guy trying to bustle
through the gates *in front* of me (i.e. using my ticket) - they ended
up on the floor behind me, though I dare say on that occasion I was
assisted somewhat by a liberal dose of dutch courage. Quite satisfying
though!

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Mizter T wrote:

Nonetheless though, as I said earlier I quite disagree with operating
a blanket policy of non-intervention and non-confrontation in public,
but I'll just leave it at that.


I agree. Such a policy is bad for one's self and society.
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Rob Hamadi wrote:

On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me. The (Silverlink) "security" guard backed him up
shouting "What's it to do with you? How is it your business if he's
got a ticket?" at me.


If he was definitely a security guard, and the above is an accurate
portrayal of what he said, then I am surprised.

Perhaps the security guard and the guy knew each other, or perhaps the
security guard has sussed out his ground and knew whom to leave alone
if he was after an easy life.

Out of interest where did this happen?

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On Feb 17, 7:14 pm, "Mizter T" wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
On Feb 16, 11:07 pm, Dave A wrote:
The gateline staff didn't seem too interested.


Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me. The (Silverlink) "security" guard backed him up
shouting "What's it to do with you? How is it your business if he's
got a ticket?" at me.


If he was definitely a security guard, and the above is an accurate
portrayal of what he said, then I am surprised.


He was, it is and so was I.

Perhaps the security guard and the guy knew each other, or perhaps the
security guard has sussed out his ground and knew whom to leave alone
if he was after an easy life.


I got the impression that they knew each other.

Out of interest where did this happen?


Camden Road. Incidentally, when I appealed to the Silverlink employee
in the ticket office, he seemed terrified of the "security" man and
eventually lost all command of the English language in an effort to
make me go away.
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Mizter T wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
Last time I confronted a guy for squeezing through behind me he
threatened to stab me. The (Silverlink) "security" guard backed him up
shouting "What's it to do with you? How is it your business if he's
got a ticket?" at me.


If he was definitely a security guard, and the above is an accurate
portrayal of what he said, then I am surprised.

Perhaps the security guard and the guy knew each other, or perhaps the
security guard has sussed out his ground and knew whom to leave alone
if he was after an easy life.


Or he wasn't keen on a 'have a go hero' getting knifed on his shift.

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