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On 9 Mar 2007 10:50:37 -0800, "alex_t"
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Is it true?


No, though flash photography is not allowed for the reason that it may
distract drivers.

They acted outside their rights; if you've got their badge numbers or
names you could certainly attempt a complaint.

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On Mar 10, 2:04 am, "Bob Wood" wrote:
Innews asdf typed:

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:06:46 +0000, Ian Jelf wrote:


I found the quote:


"It's not all underground either. Apart from the Circle line, all
other lines thread their way through the City and go above ground
into the countryside."


Where, pray, are the Victoria Line and Waterloo & City "go above
ground into the countryside"?!

The Vic (along with several others) doesn't go through the City,
either.


City of Westminster?


Which city does the ELL go through?

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alex_t wrote:
Are there any specific instructions for photographers on the
Underground? I was standing at the Baker Street station (Metropolitan
line platform) and tried to make photo of the local junction (at the
moment when train was passing it) - I was approached by two policemen
and told to stop photography and delete existing photos (they even
checked that the photos were deleted) as no photography allowed on the
Underground anymore due to the threat of the terrorism.


Visitors from the NYPD, perhaps?
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David of Broadway wrote:

Visitors from the NYPD, perhaps?


Hardly. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/arts/film...lming-faqs.asp
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On Mar 10, 3:27 am, "John Rowland"
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Paul Corfield wrote:

The police also have no right whatsoever to demand that you delete
photographs from your camera.


The police have the right to do what the hell they like. Welcome to New
Labour's Britain!


I know you're not being wholly serious, but this isn't exactly the
case.

Unfortunately, the OP doesn't seem to have taken down enough details
(but CCTV might fill some gaps with this being a tube station), but
had he done so, he should fire off a letter stating:

1) the date and approximate time of the incident
2) the names and numbers of the policemen who exceeded their authority
3) a description of how they exceeded their authority (basically, what
happened)
4) the fact that damage was caused as a result of the policemen's
actions (deletions are damage)
5) names and addresses of any witnesses
6) permission to advise any involved parties of the existence and
content of your letter (bloody DPA!)

Then send it off to:

The Independent Police Complaints Commission,
90, High Holborn,
LONDON WC1V 6BH.

It would also be advisable to send a CC to:

Chief Constable I. Johnston,
British Transport Police,
25, Camden Road,
LONDON NW1 9LN.

It's tempting to add CCs to the BBC, the Times, and the Evening
Standard, but that's probably overkill.

James.



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David of Broadway wrote:

Visitors from the NYPD, perhaps?


Hardly. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/arts/film...lming-faqs.asp


As noted earlier - those are only the rules for commercial filming and
photography - the problem is that the rules that do allow private
photography are not accessible from the website...

Paul


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"Paul Scott" wrote:

Hardly. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/arts/film...lming-faqs.asp


As noted earlier - those are only the rules for commercial filming and
photography - the problem is that the rules that do allow private
photography are not accessible from the website...


I don't think so - there's very obvious provisions for student filming, which
isn't considered commercial. Futhermore the first two rules state:

Do you need to obtain permission to film or photograph on London Underground?

Yes. Anybody wanting to film or take pictures must seek prior permission from
the London Underground Film Office.

How do you apply for a permit to film on the London Underground?

For all individuals and film production companies applying for a permit, you you
can email the London Underground Film Office to apply for a filming or
photography permit.


Note the references to "anybody" and "all individuals" - not just commercial
photographers...
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"Rick Blaine" wrote in message
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"Paul Scott" wrote:

Hardly. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/arts/film...lming-faqs.asp


As noted earlier - those are only the rules for commercial filming and
photography - the problem is that the rules that do allow private
photography are not accessible from the website...


I don't think so - there's very obvious provisions for student filming,
which
isn't considered commercial. Futhermore the first two rules state:


Please see earlier posts - especially the one by Steve Fitzgerald on 10/3
containing the extract from the LU staff manual:

10. Photography on stations


10.1 Passengers can take photographs with small cameras for private
purposes, provided
flashlights and/or tripods are not used
no obstruction or inconvenience is caused to staff and/or passengers.


10.2 Representatives of the media, press or photographic agencies and
film companies, and other persons taking photographs for commercial
purposes must first get permission from the Press Officer. See section
13 of this document


Paul


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In oups.com,
Paul Weaver typed:
On Mar 10, 2:04 am, "Bob Wood" wrote:
Innews asdf typed:

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:06:46 +0000, Ian Jelf wrote:


I found the quote:


"It's not all underground either. Apart from the Circle line, all
other lines thread their way through the City and go above ground
into the countryside."


Where, pray, are the Victoria Line and Waterloo & City "go above
ground into the countryside"?!
The Vic (along with several others) doesn't go through the City,
either.


City of Westminster?


Which city does the ELL go through?



Didn't it used to go under Spitalfields City Farm? Does that count?




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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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"Rick Blaine" wrote in message
...
"Paul Scott" wrote:

Hardly. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/arts/film...lming-faqs.asp

As noted earlier - those are only the rules for commercial filming and
photography - the problem is that the rules that do allow private
photography are not accessible from the website...


I don't think so - there's very obvious provisions for student filming,
which
isn't considered commercial. Futhermore the first two rules state:


Please see earlier posts - especially the one by Steve Fitzgerald on 10/3
containing the extract from the LU staff manual:

10. Photography on stations


10.1 Passengers can take photographs with small cameras for private
purposes, provided
flashlights and/or tripods are not used
no obstruction or inconvenience is caused to staff and/or passengers.


10.2 Representatives of the media, press or photographic agencies and
film companies, and other persons taking photographs for commercial
purposes must first get permission from the Press Officer. See section
13 of this document


Paul


In the current Conditions of Carriage (Jan 007), there's the clear
implication that it's permissible to take non-flash photographs and
use a hand-held camera on London Underground stations and trains.
Otherwise presumably, all unlicensed photography would have been
banned outright.

quote

4.5. For safety reasons, on our buses, in our bus stations and
on London Underground stations and trains you must not:

• smoke

• use bicycles, roller skates, roller blades, scooters or skateboards

• take flash photographs and/or use a tripod or other camera support
equipment
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^

• use emergency exits except in an emergency or when instructed to do so by
our staff

/quote

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...ary-2-2007.pdf


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