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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:11:35 +0000, Dave A wrote: Edward Cowling London UK wrote: Well I've now done three weeks on the North London Line and it's been an experience. Then there is Highbury & Islington ! You can hear people on mobiles telling friends, "We're at Highbury and Islington, there'll be trouble, there always is." The train pulls in and the people on the platform are so packed in that they can't make a gap for the people getting off. A sort of scrum develops and people moan at each other. The frontier express spirit would still mean nothing serious would happen, but the staff at Highbury & Islington then play their trump card. They start shouting at people through megaphones (honest) and of course that gets things nicely heated up and trouble ensues. Eventually a lone police woman comes down the stairs, uses a bit of common sense, stops the staff shouting and order is restored. I was reliably informed today that trains arriving at Highbury & Islington on the NLL are (officially) the most crowded in London. I'm sure that's no surprise to you (but it usually is to everyone else who thinks their trains are the most packed in London, and can't understand how trains on a line that doesn't even go *into* central London can be more crowded)!! I have to say I was a bit surprised to read both of these comments. They are rather revealing though. I am now somewhat intrigued and may well toddle along sometime to take a look at just how awful it is. I shall try to stay in a place where I am not in the way though! I imagine from a statistical point of view, the main issue is how short the trains are - PIXC measures the ratio of seats to standing, and those NLL trains don't have many seats! If it is like this now I cannot imagine what will happen when improvements to the overall service start being delivered and suppressed demand starts to be unlocked - it'll be (even more) awful! That's a very real challenge for whoever will be running the service. LU will be taking over the operation of those platforms / station buildings come November so there the local staff will have all that to deal with. It will be quite tricky. The station improvement programme will launch pretty quickly, and that in itself will attract more people to the line before the trains are even touched. The infrastructure works to permit the doubling of frequencies can't start until 2009/10 and will run for three years (pencilled in as west NLL, then east NLL, then GOBLIN). I have yet another document in front of me which mentions a slightly different service pattern than the ones I have seen previously - people have been mentioning 8tph on the ELL to Dalston Junction and only 4tph beyond to Highbury, but this says 8tph to Highbury (4tph from Crystal Palace, 4tph from New Cross) and 4tph to Dalston Junction (from West Croydon). It also mentions "additional peak services to/from Dalston Junction" (which I presume means fromto/from the south!). These frequencies are set out as part of Service Level Commitment 2, which would also see 2tph Stratford - Clapham J, 4tph Stratford - Richmond and 2tph Stratford - Camden Road - resulting in 16tph from the Dalston stations to Highbury. That should be more than enough to satisfy both existing and new demand on that section of line, but of course it has to wait until the new ELL curve opens in 2011. Prior to that, the 8tph Stratford to Camden Road should be running, but presumably only from 2010 when infrastructure works have been done. There may be scope for extra "PIXC-buster" services in the peaks between Camden Road and Stratford in the meantime - I'm not really sure what the plan for that is. Unfortunately, platform extensions are a very tricky business - there are various plans for them, but as someone else mentioned, some stations are especially tricky - Dalston Kingsland is one of them (overbridges at each end). Selective door opening has been mentioned for lightly-used stations, but Dalston Kingsland isn't one of them. -- Dave Arquati www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
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