"NM" wrote in message
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Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.

Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was reduced
a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about 10
billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local authorities
on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't forget all the
associated costs will you?

Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
news
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.
Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was reduced
a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about 10
billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local authorities
on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't forget all the
associated costs will you?


What makes you think I'm going to work it out.

"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
news
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a
system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending
on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.
Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was
reduced a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about
10 billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???

When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local
authorities on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't
forget all the associated costs will you?
What makes you think I'm going to work it out.

You've already started, or like so many in road haulage, you give up when
things get difficult?

Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
news Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way beyond
anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have a
system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on bottomless
pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand here like
including all road generated taxes when we're only discussing HGV
generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or road
fund licence is to be set at a level that can then provide spending
on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's the other
way around.
Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was
reduced a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's about
10 billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road system is ???
When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local
authorities on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax), don't
forget all the associated costs will you?
What makes you think I'm going to work it out.

You've already started, or like so many in road haulage, you give up when
things get difficult?


evidence?

NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
news Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message
...
allan tracy wrote:
... maybe a complete highway network provided at a cost way
beyond anything HGV taxes run to has something to do with it.
Utter bollox. I await the day all the road generated taxes are
actually
spent on the road network, if this ever occured we would have
a system
second to none, instead the surplus is frittered away on
bottomless pits
like the national trainset.

Ahh... naughty naughty do I detect a little sleight of hand
here like including all road generated taxes when we're only
discussing HGV generated taxes.

I own a car and nowhere does it explain that my petrol duty or
road fund licence is to be set at a level that can then
provide spending on
accommodating HGVs.

at 8 mpg and heavy ved there is no subsidy, if anything it's
the other way around.
Evidence?

Please don't simply state the anount of VED a lorry pays, it was
reduced a few years ago you may recall.
Back of a fag packet calculations show annual tax take from HGV's
about 10 billion pounds (VED + Fuel tax) expenditure on UK road
system is ???
When your working it out (not forgetting the cash spent by local
authorities on loal roads some of which comes from Counil Tax),
don't forget all the associated costs will you?
What makes you think I'm going to work it out.

You've already started, or like so many in road haulage, you give up
when things get difficult?


evidence?

Any number of winter time news reports showing vehicles dumped just because
there's a bit of snow on the ground.

In article , Brimstone says...

Any number of winter time news reports showing vehicles dumped just because
there's a bit of snow on the ground.

It ain't the lorries that get dumped....

--
Conor

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

Conor wrote:
In article , Brimstone says...

Any number of winter time news reports showing vehicles dumped just because
there's a bit of snow on the ground.

It ain't the lorries that get dumped....

Nah, they just jackknife because the morons behind the wheel can't drive
safely, and cause the entire road behind them to become blocked.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/2712045.stm

"On the northbound carriageway there were 12 jack-knifed lorries"

Robin