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I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine plus
electric motor. Are these out and about yet?

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Boltar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine plus
electric motor. Are these out and about yet?


February 2006.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3680.aspx

And double-deckers since November 2006.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm
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On 6 Jul, 09:56, Adrian wrote:
Boltar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine plus
electric motor. Are these out and about yet?


February 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3680.aspx

And double-deckers since November 2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm


Anyone know what routes?

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Boltar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine
plus electric motor. Are these out and about yet?


February
2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3680.aspx

And double-deckers since November
2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm


Anyone know what routes?


sigh

From the first link...
The hybrids will operate on route 360, run by London Central, from
tomorrow, Wednesday, 8 February 2006.


From the second link...
When it returns to London it will operate on the route between Wood
Green and London Bridge.

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On 6 Jul, 11:06, Adrian wrote:
Boltar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine
plus electric motor. Are these out and about yet?
February
2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3680.aspx


And double-deckers since November
2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm

Anyone know what routes?


sigh

From the first link...

The hybrids will operate on route 360, run by London Central, from
tomorrow, Wednesday, 8 February 2006.


I had spotted it. That was 18 months ago however.


From the second link...

When it returns to London it will operate on the route between Wood
Green and London Bridge.


And that is the number what?

B2003




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Boltar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

From the first link...


The hybrids will operate on route 360, run by London Central, from
tomorrow, Wednesday, 8 February 2006.


I had spotted it. That was 18 months ago however.


I doubt they've been moved to another route, because to do so would make
the long-term trial results more difficult to interpret.

From the second link...


When it returns to London it will operate on the route between Wood
Green and London Bridge.


And that is the number what?


http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=woo...don+bridge+bus
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:13:00 -0700, Boltar
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When it returns to London it will operate on the route between Wood
Green and London Bridge.


And that is the number what?


http://just****inggoogleit.com/
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:35:46 -0700, Boltar
wrote:

On 6 Jul, 09:56, Adrian wrote:
Boltar ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine plus
electric motor. Are these out and about yet?


February 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3680.aspx

And double-deckers since November 2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm


Anyone know what routes?


Single decks are on the 360 (South Ken - Elephant) and the double deck
is normally scheduled for the 141 (London Bridge - Palmers Green) but I
believe it is away for further mods at present.

An ethanol powered Scania double deck is scheduled for use on the 148
but it's not been passed for operation yet.

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In article , aooy65
@dsl.pipex.com says...


Single decks are on the 360 (South Ken - Elephant) and the double deck
is normally scheduled for the 141 (London Bridge - Palmers Green) but I
believe it is away for further mods at present.

An ethanol powered Scania double deck is scheduled for use on the 148
but it's not been passed for operation yet.


From LOTS News Sunday 24 June

1) The Wrights Hybrid d/d HEV1 with Arriva was taken back to Wrights at
Ballymena on 18th June for mods to the system that keeps the traction
battery pack cool and which needs to be replaced by a more robust
system. It is unlikely to be back in London much before the end of
July.
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On 6 Jul, 09:56, Adrian wrote:
February 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...ntre/3680.aspx


From the article:


"The battery pack is kept at optimum power by a 1.9 litre diesel Euro
IV engine. In other words, an engine which would normally be found in
a family car keeps the battery"

1.9 sounds a bit too small. I'm sure in start and stop traffic it
might be ok but ultimately the energy all comes from that engine.
Seems to me the bus would be hopeless for any long or even middle
distance runs especially if any hills are involved, since once the
battery has been used up its relying on the engine only and a 10 ton
(probably more) bus won't be going anywhere fast with an engine that
size.

B2003



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