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"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"Hidden" Plans for two new Terminals at Heathrow.
By Jonathon Carr-Brown The Sunday Times 13th October 2002 PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. The terminals would be in addition to the planned terminal 5, which was given the go-ahead last year after a four-year planning inquiry. Local residents accuse the transport department of trying to conceal plans for the new building work. The plans do not appear on the government website or in public consultation documents outlining proposals to build a new runway at the airport, released in July. The new documents - buried in an obscure appendix of a separate report - show plans are advanced to create two more terminals, including one for transit passengers. Campaigners against the airport's expansion claim the disclosure shows that the consultation over the new runway is a sham and that hundreds of homeowners, who could have their houses demolished, are being misled about the scale of the plans. Paul de Zylva, aviation spokesman for Friends of the Earth, said: "This is not a proper consultation. People could be forgiven for thinking the government was trying to pull the wool over their eyes." Heathrow campaigners became suspicious two weeks ago when Mike Hodgkinson, the chief executive of BAA, which runs Britain's main airports, told residents' meetings that "additional facilities" would be needed if a third runway was built. The campaigners say that, when pressed, Hodgkinson said a sixth terminal would be required and referred to the government's consultation process. Despite searches, the only reference found in the main transport department consultation document was a paragraph talking about extra terminal capacity being provided by "reconfiguring" terminals 1, 2 and 3 and space to the south of the airport. Further investigations led to the discovery of maps and diagrams produced by Halcrow, the government's consultants. These show that a new runway would lead to the £1.6billion redevelopment of terminals 1, 2 and 3, the doubling in size of terminal 4 to create a new terminal, and the building of another new one for transit passengers. The estimated cost would be £550m. "This has massive implications for hundreds of homeowners sandwiched between the proposed new runway and the old one," said John Stewart of the Heathrow Association for the Control of Aircraft Noise. "Any properties not knocked down will be blighted for ever." A BAA spokesman said: "If a third runway was built it would require additional facilities." Asked whether that meant a sixth terminal, he said: "That question is part of our considerations but we have never used the term 'sixth terminal'." The transport department said: "If Heathrow is given permission to build a new runway it will be up to them to come up with detailed plans." The need for new terminal facilities will be acute if a new runway is built. It could lead to an increase of almost 50% in flight numbers, from 461,000 to 688,000 a year by 2030. Passenger numbers would rise from 64m to 130m. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
CJB wrote:
"Hidden" Plans for two new Terminals at Heathrow. By Jonathon Carr-Brown The Sunday Times 13th October 2002 PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. report snipped Now add on the additional surface transport that this would create and the scheme becomes even more problematic. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"CJB" wrote in message ups.com... "Hidden" Plans for two new Terminals at Heathrow. By Jonathon Carr-Brown The Sunday Times 13th October 2002 PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. Campaigners against the airport's expansion claim the disclosure shows that the consultation over the new runway is a sham and that hundreds of homeowners, who could have their houses demolished, are being misled about the scale of the plans. I can't see why it would bother the "hundreds of people whos house is going to be demolished" that the scale of the plans are being hidden. If your house is in the "to be demolished" list it makes not one jot what the reason is, IMHO. tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
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"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
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"Hidden" Plans for two new Terminals at Heathrow. By Jonathon Carr-Brown The Sunday Times 13th October 2002 PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. Maybe someone should publish these 'hidden' plans then. Or come up with a viable alternative. ICBA anymore. -- Dog Poop Stand by me, |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
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says... "Hidden" Plans for two new Terminals at Heathrow. By Jonathon Carr-Brown The Sunday Times 13th October 2002 A 5 year old news report. Hardly credible. -- Conor The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"Dogpoop" wrote in message ... CJB wrote: "Hidden" Plans for two new Terminals at Heathrow. By Jonathon Carr-Brown The Sunday Times 13th October 2002 PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. Maybe someone should publish these 'hidden' plans then. Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. I know that the locals won't like this, but there are far less of them. We (in the UK) have to bite the bullet on this sometime otherwise this tinkering with LHR is going to go on forever. tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
In message , tim.....
writes Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. I know that the locals won't like this, but there are far less of them. Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Shame that Bristol airport is such a pain in the arse to get to. Otherwise, and if the flights went where I want to go, I'd happily never use a London airport again. Especially Gatwick shudder. -- Steve Walker |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"Steve Walker" wrote in message ... In message , tim..... writes Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. I know that the locals won't like this, but there are far less of them. Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Shame that Bristol airport is such a pain in the arse to get to. Otherwise, and if the flights went where I want to go, I'd happily never use a London airport again. Especially Gatwick shudder. Like I said, there's going to be some losers here. But IMHO something radical has to be done, and developing LHR is not it. tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, tim..... wrote:
"Dogpoop" wrote in message ... CJB wrote: PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. Maybe someone should publish these 'hidden' plans then. Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. Hey! Why Stansted? Why not Luton - much better placed for the transport links. Run a rail spur Stevenage - Luton - Leighton Buzzard and you've got the WCML, MML and ECML all linked in. If the Oxford - Cambridge line comes back to life, there's an easy link to the GWML too. I know that the locals won't like this, but there are far less of them. How about this airport on an artificial island in the Thames estuary, then? Even fewer NIMBYs! tom -- If it ain't broke, open it up and see what makes it so bloody special. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message .li... On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, tim..... wrote: "Dogpoop" wrote in message ... CJB wrote: PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. Maybe someone should publish these 'hidden' plans then. Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. Hey! Why Stansted? Because Stansted is the one with the least people under the potential flight path(s) Why not Luton Because, like LHR, it's surrounded by a town - much better placed for the transport links. Run a rail spur Stevenage - Luton - Leighton Buzzard and you've got the WCML, MML and ECML all linked in. If the Oxford - Cambridge line comes back to life, there's an easy link to the GWML too. I know that the locals won't like this, but there are far less of them. How about this airport on an artificial island in the Thames estuary, then? Even fewer NIMBYs! Yep, I agree, but paradoxically this is an even harder sell tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, tim..... wrote:
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message .li... On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, tim..... wrote: "Dogpoop" wrote in message ... CJB wrote: PROPOSALS to build two new terminals at Heathrow are being considered as part of plans to increase the airport's capacity, government documents have revealed, writes Jonathon Carr-Brown. Maybe someone should publish these 'hidden' plans then. Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. Hey! Why Stansted? Because Stansted is the one with the least people under the potential flight path(s) Why not Luton Because, like LHR, it's surrounded by a town Have you ever heard of a place called Bishop's Stortford? tom -- They didn't have any answers - they just wanted weed and entitlement. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
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In message , tim..... writes Or come up with a viable alternative. Developing Stansted into a 4 runway airport with a high speed train connection (south, north and sast) and closing LHR completely. I know that the locals won't like this, but there are far less of them. Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Shame that Bristol airport is such a pain in the arse to get to. Otherwise, and if the flights went where I want to go, I'd happily never use a London airport again. Especially Gatwick shudder. Maybe there's a case for expanding all/many/some regional airports, like Bristol, but as part of that expansion also increase/improve the local infrastructure to support them properly. Better road/rail/bus/cycle/pedestrian links, with a lot more scope for additional, indirect to the airport, investment, say industrial estates etc that might be better being some way away from habitation. -- Dog Poop Away from home. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Half the passengers using Heathrow are transit passengers anyway and they can transit anywhere. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Why on Earth do the environmental lobby keep targeting aviation. At least aviation is public transport, which is more than can be said for cars. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
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allan tracy writes Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Don't really see the relevance. Simple question of where people live and how easy it is to get to an airport. Heathrow currently serves those people. Closing it and expanding Stansted would not. Which came first seems completely irrelevant to how current transport requirements are best met. -- Steve Walker |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
tim..... wrote:
"allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
tim..... wrote:
"NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. "They" didn't. The railway was built to move goods from the port of Bristol to London. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
tim..... wrote:
"NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"Brimstone" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. "They" didn't. The railway was built to move goods from the port of Bristol to London. all the local station were still build long before the airport was 'comercialised'. Why did they do this if there was no-one living (or expecting to move) there? tim |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
"NM" wrote in message ... Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. Now you're just wriggling. What I think doesn't matter. The fact that you have got you knickers in a twist and are wriggling around trying straighten them says enough. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
"NM" wrote in message ... Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. Now you're just wriggling. What I think doesn't matter. The fact that you have got you knickers in a twist and are wriggling around trying straighten them says enough. Dream on. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. Now you're just wriggling. What I think doesn't matter. The fact that you have got you knickers in a twist and are wriggling around trying straighten them says enough. Dream on. It's you who's dreaming, or is it a nightmare? Have a good wriggle. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. Now you're just wriggling. What I think doesn't matter. The fact that you have got you knickers in a twist and are wriggling around trying straighten them says enough. Dream on. It's you who's dreaming, or is it a nightmare? Have a good wriggle. As I said, dream on, you appear to be enjoying it. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
NM wrote:
Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. Now you're just wriggling. What I think doesn't matter. The fact that you have got you knickers in a twist and are wriggling around trying straighten them says enough. Dream on. It's you who's dreaming, or is it a nightmare? Have a good wriggle. As I said, dream on, you appear to be enjoying it. I'm enjoying seeing you wriggle. |
"Hidden" Plans for TWO new Terminals at Heathrow.
Brimstone wrote:
NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: Brimstone wrote: NM wrote: tim..... wrote: "NM" wrote in message ... tim..... wrote: "allan tracy" wrote in message oups.com... Bit bloody useless for all of the passengers living in the M4 corridor for whom Heathrow is usefully situated. Ask yourself which came first Heathrow Airport or the M4 corridor and its passengers that live there. Hum, when was the mainline railway built? Relevence? Why would they build a mainline railway to an area with no people in it. tim To (in this case) to get to Bristol and the transatlantic shipping trade, same applies to Southamppton and Plymouth. Swindon was just a convienient place to put a workshop, railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike. Not totally acurate. What became the present mainline railway was initially proposed by Bristolians to move their goods to London and the railway doesn't follow the Bath Road. Then they must have moved it since I was a kid. Nope, try looking at a map. (Which is not to say that the two don't get close and even cross in one or two places between London and Reading.) Which is what I said in the first place. You said, "railway more or lesss followed the track of the Bath Road an ancient track and a turnpike" indicates that the two are close to each other for most or all of the distance, they're not. Except for a couple of locations, they don't even get close. More or less, all the implications are your fantasies. That's about as close to an apology as I'm likely to get from you so I suppose it will have to suffice. Whatever, I see it more as ask a silly question, get a silly answer, perhaps you should modify your interrogtion technique, Try checking your facts rather than relying on seventy-five year old memories of a limited area. OK, if you try not to jump in with an irrelevent question soley posed with trolling in mind. I didn't pose a question. You made the troling comment and now you can't handle it when found out. Handle it? You are taking the ****, do you think I give a flying **** what you think. Now you're just wriggling. What I think doesn't matter. The fact that you have got you knickers in a twist and are wriggling around trying straighten them says enough. Dream on. It's you who's dreaming, or is it a nightmare? Have a good wriggle. As I said, dream on, you appear to be enjoying it. I'm enjoying seeing you wriggle. dream on |
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