I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:
I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

In terms of a cost-benefit analysis, yes the pros would outweigh the
cons. But in reality, better 1 businessman be on time for his
important meeting, better 1 family catch that last train to Paris,
than 1000 people reach the top of the escalator 5 seconds earlier.

On Sep 1, 11:41 pm, JL wrote:
In terms of a cost-benefit analysis, yes the pros would outweigh the
cons. But in reality, better 1 businessman be on time for his
important meeting, better 1 family catch that last train to Paris,
than 1000 people reach the top of the escalator 5 seconds earlier.

True , but I was thinking of it being a way of clearing out the rush
hour crush at places like kings cross and victoria rather than getting
people anywhere quicker. Though I suppose theres an argument that
perhaps it would just move the crush to the other end of the
escalator.

B2003

"Boltar" wrote in message
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On Sep 1, 11:41 pm, JL wrote:
In terms of a cost-benefit analysis, yes the pros would outweigh the
cons. But in reality, better 1 businessman be on time for his
important meeting, better 1 family catch that last train to Paris,
than 1000 people reach the top of the escalator 5 seconds earlier.

True , but I was thinking of it being a way of clearing out the rush
hour crush at places like kings cross and victoria rather than getting
people anywhere quicker.

The people who travel in the rush hour know the rules
and queue up for the escalator accordingly. It's the
people who don't know the rules and block the walking
half unnecessarily that clog the system.

tim

On Sep 2, 11:19 am, "tim....." wrote:
The people who travel in the rush hour know the rules
and queue up for the escalator accordingly. It's the
people who don't know the rules and block the walking
half unnecessarily that clog the system.

Unfortunately theres a lot of them, or at least there seem to be. I
see them almost every day. either blocking the left at the bottom
while they try and push in on the right or just standing on the left
regardless or anyone else behind. Also there seem to be a lot of
people (usually women it has to be said) who walk up on the left and
then who for reasons best known to themselves stop just before the end
causing a ripple effect all the way back. They really **** me off.

B2003

On 02/09/2007 11:40, Boltar wrote:
On Sep 2, 11:19 am, "tim....." wrote:

The people who travel in the rush hour know the rules
and queue up for the escalator accordingly. It's the
people who don't know the rules and block the walking
half unnecessarily that clog the system.


Unfortunately theres a lot of them, or at least there seem to be. I
see them almost every day. either blocking the left at the bottom
while they try and push in on the right or just standing on the left
regardless or anyone else behind. Also there seem to be a lot of
people (usually women it has to be said) who walk up on the left and
then who for reasons best known to themselves stop just before the end
causing a ripple effect all the way back. They really **** me off.

B2003

And you forget those people who have tow along cases who *must* stop at
the top and bottom to pull the handle out and cause chaos behind them.

And those who step off the bottom and have no idea where there going to
go so just stop dead in front of everyone.


My 2p worth!

In article .com,
Boltar writes

there seem to be a lot of
people (usually women it has to be said) who walk up on the left and
then who for reasons best known to themselves stop just before the end

They've probably just remembered they need to retrieve their ticket or
oyster card from their vast handbag.

It's the same in supermarket check out queues: the person in front of
you will wait 10 or more minutes to be served, but only begins digging
around for their purse after the cashier announces the total spend.
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On 2 Sep, 10:18, Boltar wrote:
True , but I was thinking of it being a way of clearing out the rush
hour crush at places like kings cross and victoria rather than getting
people anywhere quicker. Though I suppose theres an argument that
perhaps it would just move the crush to the other end of the
escalator.

B2003

The most dangerous thing is to move the crush to the top of the
escalator. The throughput of the escalator must not exceed the
throughput of the ticket barriers or you get Hillsbourgh in a tube
station. People cannot wait on escalators if there is a crowd ahead,
but they can wait at the base where nothing is forcing them forward.

On the other hand, when the crush _that_ bad, then yes, stand on both
sides as long as the barriers at the top can handle it. However, it
signifies that something needs to be done, usually involving adding an
extra escalator. And that's expensive.

On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:
I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

Why not speed the escalators up? Or have, where there are several
escalators, one faster speed escalator. Paris had (or still has) a
faster speed "travelator" at Gare Montponarsse.

John

On Sep 2, 7:26 am, wrote:
Why not speed the escalators up? Or have, where there are several
escalators, one faster speed escalator. Paris had (or still has) a
faster speed "travelator" at Gare Montponarsse.

I don't think health and safety would be happy about that and for once
I'd probably agree with them. It would only take someone with a
suitcase or baby buggy to fall over at the end and there could be a
right mess.

B2003