On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:15:27 GMT, Olof Lagerkvist
wrote:

Excellent bedroom view! Back in Sweden again this is the view from my
bedroom window:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_vieH1y4I
(8 buses/hour.)

Does the little bus, a planned connection I assume, link up to the main
route 8 times an hour as well?
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Paul Corfield wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:15:27 GMT, Olof Lagerkvist
wrote:


Excellent bedroom view! Back in Sweden again this is the view from my
bedroom window:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_vieH1y4I
(8 buses/hour.)


Does the little bus, a planned connection I assume, link up to the main
route 8 times an hour as well?


No, there is only one 'little bus' an hour. It takes a longer route to
serves streets with long walking distance to the nearest bus stop.

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof

In article , ess (Olof
Lagerkvist) wrote:

Jim Brittin wrote:

To stray slightly from Shoreditch, I looked at your others one of
which is titled 'Old Railway Viaduct' which shows old lettering
on the walls.
I have occasionally wondered about this but seeing your photo
made me find out the history of this.

Must be this one then:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4755753 (taken 15 Aug)

For anyone interested, this is a discussion about this on
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/38487/page=1

Very interesting, thanks for the link! For anyone interested, the
place is easy to find. The lettering is on the wall on the eastern
side of Blackfriars Road under the railway from Charing Cross.
Practically just outside Southwark tube station.

I know it well. It's just East of Waterloo East. Was there a station on
the other side of Blackfriars Road at one time then? The viaduct is wider
than the tracks there too.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 20 Sep, 18:52, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article , (Olof
Lagerkvist) wrote:
Jim Brittin wrote:

To stray slightly from Shoreditch, I looked at your others one of
which is titled 'Old Railway Viaduct' which shows old lettering
on the walls.
I have occasionally wondered about this but seeing your photo
made me find out the history of this.

Must be this one then:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4755753 (taken 15 Aug)

For anyone interested, this is a discussion about this on
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/38487/page=1

Very interesting, thanks for the link! For anyone interested, the
place is easy to find. The lettering is on the wall on the eastern
side of Blackfriars Road under the railway from Charing Cross.
Practically just outside Southwark tube station.

I know it well. It's just East of Waterloo East. Was there a station on
the other side of Blackfriars Road at one time then? The viaduct is wider
than the tracks there too.


Yes. The link to the se1 discussion forum will fill you in with more
info regarding the short-lived Blackfriars Station (1864 - 1869).

Alternatively for a few brief details regarding the restoration of
this frontage see this page on the Southwark council website:
http://www.southwark.gov.uk/YourServ...rationSection/
banksideimprovements/Blackfriarsroad.html
or via http://preview.tinyurl.com/2my5lb.

It was covered up for years behind a large advertising hoarding and
was again revealed to a somewhat confused public in 2005 (confused
because they thought Blackfriars station was north of the river).

Evidence of wartime bombing is apparent on the facade (is that the
correct term to use?), from both the blitz and from a V2 rocket.

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article , ess (Olof
Lagerkvist) wrote:

Jim Brittin wrote:

To stray slightly from Shoreditch, I looked at your others one of
which is titled 'Old Railway Viaduct' which shows old lettering
on the walls.
I have occasionally wondered about this but seeing your photo
made me find out the history of this.

Must be this one then:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4755753 (taken 15 Aug)

For anyone interested, this is a discussion about this on
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/38487/page=1

Very interesting, thanks for the link! For anyone interested, the
place is easy to find. The lettering is on the wall on the eastern
side of Blackfriars Road under the railway from Charing Cross.
Practically just outside Southwark tube station.

I know it well. It's just East of Waterloo East. Was there a station on
the other side of Blackfriars Road at one time then? The viaduct is wider
than the tracks there too.


There was a two page spread on the restoration of the station facade in Rail
issue 573, if you can get hold of a copy anywhere; its a pity its the issue
before the current one, else WH Smiths library could have been useful...

Apparently the platforms ran for about 400 ft to the east of Blackfriars Rd,
and ended under the bridge carrying the line into the modern Blackfriars;
the station buildings and platform details are uncertain, although it is
known there were 3 tracks, up and down towards Charing Cross, and a
bidirectional line for the Charing Cross-Cannon St shuttle.

Paul

In article ,
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , ess (Olof
Lagerkvist) wrote:

Must be this one then:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4755753 (taken 15 Aug)

For anyone interested, this is a discussion about this on
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/38487/page=1

I know it well. It's just East of Waterloo East. Was there a station on
the other side of Blackfriars Road at one time then? The viaduct is wider
than the tracks there too.

There are some pics and a few notes on Blackfriars Bridge goods and
passenger stations at Nick Catford's Disused Stations site:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...friars_bridge/
and on the Disused Railways fotopic site:
http://disused-rlys.fotopic.net/c963559.html
and Loveplums:
http://www.loveplums.co.uk/Tube/Blac...ghborough.html

Some minor duplication of views, but all three well worth a browse.

Nick
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"The Internet, an ersatz counterfeit of real life"
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On 21 Sep, 10:12, Nick Leverton wrote:
In article ,

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Olof
Lagerkvist) wrote:

Must be this one then:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4755753(taken 15 Aug)

For anyone interested, this is a discussion about this on
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/38487/page=1
I know it well. It's just East of Waterloo East. Was there a station on
the other side of Blackfriars Road at one time then? The viaduct is wider
than the tracks there too.

There are some pics and a few notes on Blackfriars Bridge goods and
passenger stations at Nick Catford's Disused Stations site:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...friars_bridge/
and on the Disused Railways fotopic site:
http://disused-rlys.fotopic.net/c963559.html
and Loveplums:
http://www.loveplums.co.uk/Tube/Blac...ghborough.html

Some minor duplication of views, but all three well worth a browse.

Nick


Welcome to the wonderful world of confusion! OK, this is a critical
distinction here - the now gone Blackfriars Bridge station is a
*different* station to the Blackfriars station (Charing Cross railway)
that we are referring to.

So, to be clear, here are the different stations with Blackfriars in
the name, all of which were on different sites.

* Blackfriars station (Charing Cross Railway) - 1864 to 1869.
On the line between London Bridge and Charing Cross. Replaced by
Waterloo Junction station (now called Waterloo East).

* Blackfriars Bridge station (London Chatham & Dover Railway) - 1864 -
1885 (remained open for goods until 1964).
On the "City Line" between Herne Hill/ Elephant & Castle and the now
closed Ludgate Hill station north of the river. A station called St
Paul's opened south of Ludgate Hil, but still north of the river in
1886.
(The City Line is the line now used by Thameslink between the modern
Blackfriars station and E&C.)

* The modern-day Blackfriars station -opened as St Paul's in 1886, but
renamed as Blackfriars in 1937.


The station facade on Blackfriars Road that we are talking about is
that of the first station in the above list!

Mizter T wrote:

* Blackfriars Bridge station (London Chatham & Dover Railway) -
1864 - 1885 (remained open for goods until 1964).
On the "City Line" between Herne Hill/ Elephant & Castle and the now
closed Ludgate Hill station north of the river.

Just to clarify this slightly ambiguous sentence. The words "north of
the river" refer to Ludgate Hill station. Blackfriars Bridge station
was south of the river.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On 21 Sep, 11:58, "Richard J." wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
* Blackfriars Bridge station (London Chatham & Dover Railway) -
1864 - 1885 (remained open for goods until 1964).
On the "City Line" between Herne Hill/ Elephant & Castle and the now
closed Ludgate Hill station north of the river.

Just to clarify this slightly ambiguous sentence. The words "north of
the river" refer to Ludgate Hill station. Blackfriars Bridge station
was south of the river.
--
Richard J.

Yes, indeed that is what I meant - thanks.

In article .com,
Mizter T wrote:
On 21 Sep, 10:12, Nick Leverton wrote:

There are some pics and a few notes on Blackfriars Bridge goods and
passenger stations at Nick Catford's Disused Stations site:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...friars_bridge/
and on the Disused Railways fotopic site:
http://disused-rlys.fotopic.net/c963559.html
and Loveplums:
http://www.loveplums.co.uk/Tube/Blac...ghborough.html

Welcome to the wonderful world of confusion! OK, this is a critical
distinction here - the now gone Blackfriars Bridge station is a
*different* station to the Blackfriars station (Charing Cross railway)
that we are referring to.

*snips*

The station facade on Blackfriars Road that we are talking about is
that of the first station in the above list!

Just so, and thanks for the additional notes. I think the sites I
linked to all feature that station - that was certainly my intention -
although admittedly some of them cover the entire line and hence also
show the later Blackfriars north of the River !

mode=Sellers

It's all rather confusing really.

/mode

Nick
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