tim..... wrote:
"MaxB" wrote in message
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This wonderful phrase is currently being applied to the Circle,
District and H&C non-service. Does anyone know why?

Did they really say that?

Surely it's a tautology. The trains are unavailable because
there is a lack of them.

I think you are confused. There is no lack of trains, but there is a
severe lack of trains that are available for service. The trains are
unavailable because of an alleged safety-related defect. "Lack of
available trains" seems to me to be a perfectly clear non-tautological
phrase.

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Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
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tim..... wrote:
"MaxB" wrote in message
ups.com...
This wonderful phrase is currently being applied to the Circle,
District and H&C non-service. Does anyone know why?

Did they really say that?

Surely it's a tautology. The trains are unavailable because
there is a lack of them.

I think you are confused. There is no lack of trains, but there is a
severe lack of trains that are available for service. The trains are
unavailable because of an alleged safety-related defect. "Lack of
available trains" seems to me to be a perfectly clear non-tautological
phrase.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


The best announcements I've heard whilst waiting for a Circle line train for
some time at Edgware Rd were "we cannot find the driver" and "the driver
hasn't finished his tea break" Full support for the finishing tea break
driver
I got so fed up I switched to getting the Bakerloo line to and from
Paddington

Nicola Redwood wrote:

The best announcements I've heard whilst waiting for a Circle line train for
some time at Edgware Rd were "we cannot find the driver" and "the driver
hasn't finished his tea break" Full support for the finishing tea break
driver


I have heard exactly that too. When the driver arrived there was another
announcement, first: "Driver, your train is on platform 3" (or whichever
platform it was) and then something like "No, not that one driver, YOUR
train is on platform 3". The train eventually left Edgware Road, as a
Circle Line train with the text "Hammersmith" in the front...

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof

In message , Nicola Redwood
writes

I think you are confused. There is no lack of trains, but there is a
severe lack of trains that are available for service. The trains are
unavailable because of an alleged safety-related defect. "Lack of
available trains" seems to me to be a perfectly clear non-tautological
phrase.


The best announcements I've heard whilst waiting for a Circle line train for
some time at Edgware Rd were "we cannot find the driver" and "the driver
hasn't finished his tea break" Full support for the finishing tea break
driver

The driver is perfectly entitled to his/her break. It's the part of the
working day that you are not being paid by the company, so why shouldn't
they take their half hour? It's also a legal requirement that the
driver has at least a half hour break after 4.25 hours of continuous
driving. When there are problems, it is common (at least on the Picc)
to have a short/late meal break of the minimum allowed and go straight
back out and drive some more.

Just because the person managing the service has failed to handle this
correctly doesn't put the driver at fault as was implied above.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
...
In message , Nicola Redwood
writes

I think you are confused. There is no lack of trains, but there is a
severe lack of trains that are available for service. The trains are
unavailable because of an alleged safety-related defect. "Lack of
available trains" seems to me to be a perfectly clear non-tautological
phrase.


The best announcements I've heard whilst waiting for a Circle line train
for
some time at Edgware Rd were "we cannot find the driver" and "the driver
hasn't finished his tea break" Full support for the finishing tea break
driver

The driver is perfectly entitled to his/her break. It's the part of the
working day that you are not being paid by the company, so why shouldn't
they take their half hour? It's also a legal requirement that the driver
has at least a half hour break after 4.25 hours of continuous driving.
When there are problems, it is common (at least on the Picc) to have a
short/late meal break of the minimum allowed and go straight back out and
drive some more.

Just because the person managing the service has failed to handle this
correctly doesn't put the driver at fault as was implied above.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

That's exactly why I said full support for the driver in my earlier post and
wasn't at all implying the driver was at fault.
The same reason my management are at fault when I don't get to take my lunch
break as has happened all this week