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I'd rather see the city as you ride through it, then tunnels. The new
Eurostar route is about as interesting as catching some overground
trains from Brussels Zuid, southbound.


I meant northbound of course! The Eurostar comes from the south into
Brussels.

Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


Yep that's about as good as it gets... But its even worse when you have to
*walk* that route - Well the tunnelled sections anyway...


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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:00:55 +0000, Ar scribed:

I'd rather see the city as you ride through it, then tunnels. The new
Eurostar route is about as interesting as catching some overground
trains from Brussels Zuid, southbound.


I meant northbound of course! The Eurostar comes from the south into
Brussels.

Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


But this is not the Channel Tunnel (the 2nd one) but, it has a 373 going
through it. Which tunnel is it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7n_pOzFY4

KW


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On 13 Nov, 21:19, "Ken Ward" wrote:
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:00:55 +0000, Ar scribed:


I'd rather see the city as you ride through it, then tunnels. The new
Eurostar route is about as interesting as catching some overground
trains from Brussels Zuid, southbound.


I meant northbound of course! The Eurostar comes from the south into
Brussels.


Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


But this is not the Channel Tunnel (the 2nd one) but, it has a 373 going
through it. Which tunnel is it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7n_pOzFY4

KW


It's a so-called GNERstar, exiting a tunnel at Hadley Wood? Though
perhaps not.

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:19:58 GMT, "Ken Ward"
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:00:55 +0000, Ar scribed:

I'd rather see the city as you ride through it, then tunnels. The new
Eurostar route is about as interesting as catching some overground
trains from Brussels Zuid, southbound.


I meant northbound of course! The Eurostar comes from the south into
Brussels.

Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


But this is not the Channel Tunnel (the 2nd one) but, it has a 373 going
through it. Which tunnel is it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7n_pOzFY4


Hadley Wood?

KW

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But this is not the Channel Tunnel (the 2nd one) but, it has a 373 going
through it. Which tunnel is it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7n_pOzFY4


How about Hadleywood?

see http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUae4pxPeQ


Cheers,
L.W.





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Am Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:19:58 UTC, schrieb "Ken Ward"
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But this is not the Channel Tunnel (the 2nd one) but, it has a 373 going
through it. Which tunnel is it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7n_pOzFY4


How about Hadleywood?

see http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUae4pxPeQ


Much better video, with a good soundtrack.

KW


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Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Ken Ward remarked:
But this is not the Channel Tunnel (the 2nd one) but, it has a 373 going
through it. Which tunnel is it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7n_pOzFY4


GNER trains, and a station by the tunnel mouth - Hadley Wood?
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In article , Ar wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:00:55 +0000, Ar scribed:

I'd rather see the city as you ride through it, then tunnels. The new
Eurostar route is about as interesting as catching some overground
trains from Brussels Zuid, southbound.


I meant northbound of course! The Eurostar comes from the south into
Brussels.

Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


The view of the QEII bridge is very impressive, which you don't really
see in the video.
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Am Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:56:38 UTC, schrieb Ar auf
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Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


The view is exclusively to the "outer" side, if I may say so, i.e.
away from the central parts of London. No idea how the view to the
other side might look like.

I found strange that I could see tracks to the left of the train --
the line is supposed to be double track, and on Great Britain trains
run normally on the left track. Was this video taken on one of the
test runs with volunteers? Well, after the line is opened officially
for commercial traffic, we will see more imagery and videos.


Cheers,
L.W.



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Am Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:56:38 UTC, schrieb Ar auf
uk.railway :

Anyway, for visually unintersting bordom, I think this persons video
just about sums up the new Eurostar route.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0GRF6d8EAg


The view is exclusively to the "outer" side, if I may say so, i.e.
away from the central parts of London. No idea how the view to the
other side might look like.

I found strange that I could see tracks to the left of the train --
the line is supposed to be double track, and on Great Britain trains
run normally on the left track. Was this video taken on one of the
test runs with volunteers? Well, after the line is opened officially
for commercial traffic, we will see more imagery and videos.


Various explanations I think. Leaving St Pancras, I don't think it becomes
normal 2 track railway until very close to the tunnel entrance, there are
various cross overs, flyunders etc to sort out the routes to the Eurostar
and Kent domestic platforms without conflicts. Through the Stratford
station 'box', the through track is the centre 1 of 3, with platform loops
either side. Between the east London tunnel portal and the Thames tunnel,
can't say. Perhaps it was wrong line working, or the videoed in up direction
and video played backwards...

Paul




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