2) If I move during the year and I want to extend or restrict the
zonal validity of my ticket, what are the costs involved?

They refund the difference between what you paid for the annual and what it
would have cost had you bought monthlies and weeklies, less an admin fee.

The annual is the same as 10.4 monthlies so at 10 months no refund is due
and from about month 8 on the refund might not amount to enough to buy much
at all.

I got caught by that this year having gone into hospital with a month off
work. I expected they would just extend by a month but by the time they'd
worked it out and taken the admin fee off, there wasn't enough left from
the 4 month refund to buy two monthlies to take me up to the end of the
year! Just had to take the hit of 36 days travel paid for which I couldn't
use. Take off the leave and courses where I didn't use it, monthlies would
have been cheaper.

Cheers,
Dave

On Nov 27, 11:08 am, DaveP wrote:
2) If I move during the year and I want to extend or restrict the
zonal validity of my ticket, what are the costs involved?

They refund the difference between what you paid for the annual and what it
would have cost had you bought monthlies and weeklies, less an admin fee.

The annual is the same as 10.4 monthlies so at 10 months no refund is due
and from about month 8 on the refund might not amount to enough to buy much
at all.

I got caught by that this year having gone into hospital with a month off
work. I expected they would just extend by a month but by the time they'd
worked it out and taken the admin fee off, there wasn't enough left from
the 4 month refund to buy two monthlies to take me up to the end of the
year! Just had to take the hit of 36 days travel paid for which I couldn't
use. Take off the leave and courses where I didn't use it, monthlies would
have been cheaper.


This only applies to a refund for an unused period on a ticket, not on
a change in zones. Changes in zones are done pro-rata for the
remaining period of the annual ticket and as I said about are
available until only 1 month is less.

You are correct if you are completely stopping use of the season, then
there is no refund after 10 1/2 months, but this was not the question
that the OP asked.

This only applies to a refund for an unused period on a ticket, not on
a change in zones. Changes in zones are done pro-rata for the
remaining period of the annual ticket and as I said about are
available until only 1 month is less.

You are correct if you are completely stopping use of the season, then
there is no refund after 10 1/2 months, but this was not the question
that the OP asked.

So if one wishes to cancel an annual ticket the best option would be to
exchange it for the cheapest possible ticket before applying for a
refund. Interesting.

DaveP wrote

2) If I move during the year and I want to extend or restrict the
zonal validity of my ticket, what are the costs involved?

They refund the difference between what you paid for the annual and
what it
would have cost had you bought monthlies and weeklies, less an admin
fee.

The annual is the same as 10.4 monthlies so at 10 months no refund is
due
and from about month 8 on the refund might not amount to enough to
buy much
at all.

I got caught by that this year having gone into hospital with a month
off [...]

I think you are answering a different question.

On NR anyway (see the National Rail Conditions of Carriage) there are
two different schemes. The "calculate the cost of the validity so far
as if you had used monthlies and weeklies" is the "If you decide not to
use or to stop using a Season Ticket" bit.

There is also "Changing one Season Ticket for another" which seems to
match what the OP said and which gives you a much better refund.

== calculated pro rata to the number of days of validity remaining on
the date the ticket is handed in. However, the validity of the new
ticket must start on the day after the original ticket is handed in and
must be for a period that is at least as long as that of the original
ticket when it was issued. You will not have to pay an administrative
charge.==

So if you change workplace and/or move house that's the scheme to
consider.

Indeed, the geeks could calculate that in some circumstances when you
no longer require a season for daily travel, swapping for a 2-zone
annual travel card or the traditional annual gold card for one stop
from Ryde Pier Head would give better value than a refund since Gold
Card discounts etc are better than those of Network Card and a 2-zone
card would also see occasional and bus usage.

--
Mike D

On 27 Nov, 17:09, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
DaveP wrote

2) If I move during the year and I want to extend or restrict the
zonal validity of my ticket, what are the costs involved?

(snip)

Thanks to all for your helpful responses. To clarify I was just
wondering about the implications of moving from zone 4 to 2 (or
possibly just outside 6! with work generally being in zone 1), while I
have some validity left on my ticket. Of course if there were only a
couple of months left, I might just keep the ticket and make sure I
pop home to my folks often enough to justify it..

I think you are answering a different question.

On NR anyway (see the National Rail Conditions of Carriage) there are

Yes, you're right - I misread the question, apologies to the OP, as you can
probably imagine I'm a little miffed to lose a month of travel for no fault
of my own!

Cheers,
Dave