On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
11:04:28 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Boltar remarked:

Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?

Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
for a train?

What is there better to do (remembering that usenet access is an
important ingredient of Internet Access)?

Read a book , read a paper, sleep...


Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
(instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
Internet.

You have my sympathies. When I leave the office the job stays behind
and I go back to my real life.

B2003

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

Yes, I know that. But do you have to buy a glass of champagne to use a
seat in the champagne bar?

OK, maybe not. But I suspect you won't get a seat there unless you're
planning to buy something from the bar.

On a side note, I had forgotten about the seats in the E* departure
lounge but obviously they're not located within the land-side part of StP.

That's not as helpful as you might think. IIRC all the Widened Lines
curves were restricted by sharp curvature to some extent.

In that case I'm talking about the tunnel section between SPILL and KXTL.

Ugh!

Just out of interest, how did you cope with KXTL?

On 10 Dec, 09:41, Mizter T wrote:
On 10 Dec, 09:09, "Garry Smith" wrote:





"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message

...

First impressions of the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras which
opened on time this morning (after what must have been a massive
tidy-up operation).

I have to confess that I hadn't appreciated how far I'd have to
walk between the new station and the Underground. Being used
to nipping between KX TL and the Victoria Line, this morning's
hike - up out of the new station, then along the full length of
St P, and then back down to the Tube - came as an unpleasant
surprise.

For those whom it suits, Farringdon, Blackfriars, or even Kentish
Town may be a better interchange.

Even though the new station and the Underground are not directly
linked, a few signs saying "Underground this way" would be good.
Otherwise folks unfamiliar with the new station have to guess that
to get to the Underground they have to follow the "Way Out" signs.
--
Garry Smith

I suspect there will be many other commuters today who will similarly
find the location of the new station's to be an unpleasant surprise
when it comes to interchange with the deep-level tube lines.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Moving slighlty O/T does anyone know where the platforms for Chelney/
Crossrail 2 are likely to be at KX (if it ever goes ahead)? Could they
go in the vicinity of SPILL and the Northern ticket hall?

On 9 Dec, 23:49, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,
(Sky Rider) wrote:

How will one get a bike between the platforms and street level
then?

If the lifts (let's call them 1 and 2) are big enough then your
options a
Street level - Lift 1 - Southbound platform
Street level - Lift 1 - Mezzanine - Lift 2 - Northbound platform

Ugh!

Alternatively one could carry one's bike up/down two long stairs, with
a mezzanine level in between.

PaulO

In message
, at
16:21:57 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, jonmorris
remarked:
Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.

Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

And the iPhone will also pick up wifi, iirc.

(As for Blackberry style access, I want to be able to work on my laptop,
not browse a sunset of my email with the aid of a magnifying glass. I
used something a bit like a Blackberry a long time ago, and it
definitely has its place, although not scalable to my current
requirements).
--
Roland Perry

In message
, at
01:46:46 on Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Boltar remarked:
Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
(instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
Internet.

You have my sympathies. When I leave the office the job stays behind
and I go back to my real life.

Yes, I'm self employed, and work irregular hours. Doesn't suit everyone,
nor would I be happy only reading Usenet during office hours.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 09:09:14 on Mon, 10
Dec 2007, Garry Smith remarked:
"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message
...

First impressions of the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras which
opened on time this morning (after what must have been a massive
tidy-up operation).

I have to confess that I hadn't appreciated how far I'd have to
walk between the new station and the Underground. Being used
to nipping between KX TL and the Victoria Line, this morning's
hike - up out of the new station, then along the full length of
St P, and then back down to the Tube - came as an unpleasant
surprise.

Sheesh! We MML passengers have been complaining about the huge distances
involved for *years* now

For those whom it suits, Farringdon, Blackfriars, or even Kentish
Town may be a better interchange.

Even though the new station and the Underground are not directly
linked, a few signs saying "Underground this way" would be good.
Otherwise folks unfamiliar with the new station have to guess that
to get to the Underground they have to follow the "Way Out" signs.

There do seem to be missing signs at other places, like ones at the top
of the first set of escalators closest to the MML platforms, to indicate
additional routes to the tube via the platform level concourse.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 09:09:14 on Mon, 10
Dec 2007, Garry Smith remarked:

I have to confess that I hadn't appreciated how far I'd have to
walk between the new station and the Underground. Being used
to nipping between KX TL and the Victoria Line, this morning's
hike - up out of the new station, then along the full length of
St P, and then back down to the Tube - came as an unpleasant
surprise.

Sheesh! We MML passengers have been complaining about the huge distances
involved for *years* now

Presumably the TOCs are quite happy with this. :-)

Passengers have to walk further every day.

Passengers get thinner and fitter.

More passengers can now squeeze into each train, and they now have
the stamina to stand up for the duration of their journeys.
--
Garry Smith

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:54:34 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message
, at
16:21:57 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, jonmorris
remarked:
Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.

Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

And the iPhone will also pick up wifi, iirc.

As do some (many?) far more reasonably-priced phones...

In message , at 15:29:58 on
Mon, 10 Dec 2007, James Farrar remarked:
And the iPhone will also pick up wifi, iirc.

As do some (many?) far more reasonably-priced phones...

That's good to know. I've not encountered a dual-standard one yet (they
were all over a trade show I went to in 2004, the main motivation being
improved in-building coverage I was told; but that was pretty much the
last I heard of them), although I do have a wifi-only phone.
--
Roland Perry