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Well, apart from traffic levels & overcrowding of course. I have to
suffer this damn incessant voice almost every day...
Why?
I hope there is some kind of backlash against it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4991326.stm
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Dusty Shelves wrote:

Well, apart from traffic levels & overcrowding of course. I have to
suffer this damn incessant voice almost every day...


If you don't want to hear it, then concentrate on something else and let
your brain filter the sound out, just like with any other unwanted
announcements.

Why?


Because it's good idea that should've been introduced ages ago. The
real question is why did they wait so long before introducing it.

I hope there is some kind of backlash against it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4991326.stm


I hope there isn't. Why would there be?

It's interesting that the _only_ person the BBC could find to speak
against it was a Liberal Democrat MP. If this really was an unpopular
idea, you can bet Cameron's Cronies would be rushing to complain...


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On 28 Jan, 09:13, "solar penguin"
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If you don't want to hear it, then concentrate on something else and let
your brain filter the sound out, just like with any other unwanted
announcements.


The announcements on some trains can be so loud its rather difficult
to filter it out. I doubt the ones on buses will be any different.


Why?


Because it's good idea that should've been introduced ages ago. The
real question is why did they wait so long before introducing it.


Its a good idea if done in moderation. Unfortunately this rarely
happens, and if iits done for every single stop on a bus route it'll
quickly drive people up the wall especially if they chuck in some mind-
the-doors messages on top.

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Boltar wrote:

Its a good idea if done in moderation. Unfortunately this rarely
happens, and if iits done for every single stop on a bus route it'll
quickly drive people up the wall especially if they chuck in some mind-
the-doors messages on top.


Automatically announcing every stop is regularly done in some other
countries. For example, I know it is done in Heidelberg, Germany, with
no notable increase in lunacy. It's quite useful. Of course, they don't
have the inclination to spice it up with constant "mind the doors this
is a special announcement please do not leave your bags or small
children on the bus when you leave"
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On 28 Jan, 11:31, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Its a good idea if done in moderation. Unfortunately this rarely
happens, and if iits done for every single stop on a bus route it'll
quickly drive people up the wall especially if they chuck in some mind-
the-doors messages on top.


Automatically announcing every stop is regularly done in some other
countries. For example, I know it is done in Heidelberg, Germany, with
no notable increase in lunacy. It's quite useful. Of course, they don't
have the inclination to spice it up with constant "mind the doors this
is a special announcement please do not leave your bags or small
children on the bus when you leave"


(Yeah, when you hear "this is a special announcement" you can
guarantee that you are about to hear something general and not time-
sensitive.)

My experience on the 123 was that it wasn't actually every stop; it
was every stop that was previously deemed to be a compulsory stop
before they all became request stops, ie the white stops.

When the distinction is officially done away with and stops are
presumably all the same colour, I wonder which ones they will choose
to announce?


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When the distinction is officially done away with and stops are
presumably all the same colour, I wonder which ones they will choose
to announce?


I hope, all of them. As a passenger, I might know the name of the stop /
place where I need to get off a certain route, but if I don't know the area,
how the hell can I tell?! With London Buses being as busy as they are, I
cannot realistically rely on the driver to let me know.

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MIG wrote

Automatically announcing every stop is regularly done in some other
countries. For example, I know it is done in Heidelberg, Germany,

with

My experience on the 123 was that it wasn't actually every stop; it
was every stop that was previously deemed to be a compulsory stop
before they all became request stops, ie the white stops.

When the distinction is officially done away with and stops are
presumably all the same colour, I wonder which ones they will choose
to announce?


My experience out in the sticks (routes K3 and 281 now have a few
equipped vehicles) is that it's every stop. Of course out in the sticks
even request stops are fairly well separated so adding "next stop 400
metres/yards" would be a useful enhancement.

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Boltar wrote:

Automatically announcing every stop is regularly done in some other
countries. For example, I know it is done in Heidelberg, Germany, with no
notable increase in lunacy. It's quite useful. Of course, they don't have
the inclination to spice it up with constant "mind the doors this is a
special announcement please do not leave your bags or small children on
the bus when you leave"


It's this announcement that you hear on some lines: "Stand clear, doors
opening!"

Then, after another second, they open.

Such drama.


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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:13:39 -0000, "solar penguin"
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Dusty Shelves wrote:

Well, apart from traffic levels & overcrowding of course. I have to
suffer this damn incessant voice almost every day...


If you don't want to hear it, then concentrate on something else and let
your brain filter the sound out, just like with any other unwanted
announcements.


Precisely. I use the 123 every day and it was one of the first routes to
get the system. While we've had all the teething problems and various
different forms of messages and timing of them I find no issue with the
system at all.

I can ignore if I want to and pay attention if I wish to. I don't find
it any more intrusive that the auto messages on tube trains.

Why?


Because it's good idea that should've been introduced ages ago. The
real question is why did they wait so long before introducing it.


Precisely. I'm also looking forward to the expansion of countdown style
displays at stops plus the ability (hopefully) to get real time stop
departure info texted to your mobile phone. With a lot of effort you
can just about use Transport Direct to get the timetable information per
stop.

I hope there is some kind of backlash against it!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4991326.stm


I hope there isn't. Why would there be?

It's interesting that the _only_ person the BBC could find to speak
against it was a Liberal Democrat MP. If this really was an unpopular
idea, you can bet Cameron's Cronies would be rushing to complain...


Apparently there were 12 complaints that sat behind that BBC
"exclusive". There's nothing wrong with the standard stop and route
announcements. I understand some people are fed up with other
pre-recorded messages being played constantly - I've never had that on a
Tottenham garage route. The few times the "special" messages have been
deployed they were all genuinely helpful or appropriate.

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00:22:01 on Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Dusty Shelves
remarked:
Well, apart from traffic levels & overcrowding of course. I have to
suffer this damn incessant voice almost every day...


And I've noticed car park ticket machines pouring out a stream of
patronising instructions (possibly in a slight Swedish accent). When
there's three of them side by side all in use, it's distracting as well
as annoying.
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