I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

Jonn

wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
...
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker
than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.

Only when there is a big exhibition on. Most of the time the trains are
virtually empty.

Peter Smyth

On 13 Mar, 18:42, "Peter Smyth" wrote:
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message

...

wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker
than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.

Only when there is a big exhibition on. Most of the time the trains are
virtually empty.

Peter Smyth

Not true, I was actually there counting passengers on Tuesday and I
have to say I was most surprised at the numbers using both tube and
Overground. Many passengers also enter and leave via the east, non
exhibition side.

MaxB

Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.



Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There
are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000)
which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this
period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the
numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any
others?

Cheers

Steve M

Steve M wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote:
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than
waiting for the next train.

Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived?

No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it.


Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There
are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000)
which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this
period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the
numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any
others?

Cheers

Steve M

(Well, Chesham would have more per train, but only because there are 2
trains per hour fewer from there).

Steve M wrote:

Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia.
There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700
to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run
during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off
peak, the numbers are lower.

Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on
non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business
passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at
least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the
morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays,
when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest.

Jack Taylor wrote:
Steve M wrote:
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia.
There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700
to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run
during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off
peak, the numbers are lower.

Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on
non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business
passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at
least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the
morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays,
when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest.



Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to
be available to the public on the TfL website). Perhaps during the off
peak, all the trains between 1000 and 1500 are empty, with everyone
piling on between 1500 and 1600? Saturday numbers show as 921 across
the whole traffic day.

Cheers

Steve M

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:11:09 +0000, Steve M
wrote:

Jack Taylor wrote:
Steve M wrote:
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the
network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia.
There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700
to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run
during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off
peak, the numbers are lower.

Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on
non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business
passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at
least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the
morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays,
when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest.



Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to
be available to the public on the TfL website). Perhaps during the off
peak, all the trains between 1000 and 1500 are empty, with everyone
piling on between 1500 and 1600? Saturday numbers show as 921 across
the whole traffic day.

How accurately do the entry/exit figures reflect passenger numbers?
Presumably anyone interchanging between Silverlink (as it was then)
and LUL with a season ticket/through ticket wouldn't get recorded...

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:11:09AM +0000, Steve M wrote:

Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to
be available to the public on the TfL website).

Measured how? By tickets sold at that station? Barrier entries/exits?
Both those will be too low - the latter especially, because at least
when I've gone there for an exhibition they've just opened the gates and
let everyone flood in and out unimpeded.

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