I will be moving to nearby Kensington Olympia station soon. I know that
Virgin Trains run a few services daily to East Croydon. Are Oyster-loaded
annual travelcards valid on their service? I doubt that Virgin Train
Managers come equipped with Oyster hand-held readers, so don't want to
travel on the Voyager only to be told I'm not meant to.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:41:30 +0100, "Toby" wrote:

I will be moving to nearby Kensington Olympia station soon. I know that
Virgin Trains run a few services daily to East Croydon. Are Oyster-loaded
annual travelcards valid on their service? I doubt that Virgin Train
Managers come equipped with Oyster hand-held readers, so don't want to
travel on the Voyager only to be told I'm not meant to.

Travelcards (issued for the appropriate zones) are valid on all National
Rail services with the exception of Heathrow Express (all journeys) and
Heathrow Connect (between Hayes and Harlington and the heathrow
stations). All TOCs are signatories to the Travelcard agreement (yes
even ones like Scotrail) that governs acceptance and issuing of London
Travelcard tickets.

More info here

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/1059.aspx

The National Rail website concurs with the above info.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

"Toby" wrote in message ...
I will be moving to nearby Kensington Olympia station soon. I know that
Virgin Trains run a few services daily to East Croydon. Are Oyster-loaded
annual travelcards valid on their service? I doubt that Virgin Train
Managers come equipped with Oyster hand-held readers, so don't want to
travel on the Voyager only to be told I'm not meant to.

I wouldn't make any plans based on the VXC service continuing for long
though, its binned with the new franchise...

Paul

Paul Scott wrote:
"Toby" wrote in message
...
I will be moving to nearby Kensington Olympia station soon. I know
that Virgin Trains run a few services daily to East Croydon. Are
Oyster-loaded annual travelcards valid on their service? I doubt
that Virgin Train Managers come equipped with Oyster hand-held
readers, so don't want to travel on the Voyager only to be told I'm
not meant to.

I wouldn't make any plans based on the VXC service continuing for long
though, its binned with the new franchise...

I wouldn't have thought that they were much use, anyway. There's only the
Brighton service just before mid-day and then the evening service just after
tea. The hourly Southern service from Watford Junction would probably be far
more convenient.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:30:06 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote:

Travelcards (issued for the appropriate zones) are valid on all National
Rail services with the exception of Heathrow Express (all journeys) and
Heathrow Connect (between Hayes and Harlington and the heathrow
stations).

So they are valid on Stansted Express?

If I already have a Travelcard, can I then just buy a ticket valdid from
Tottenham Hale to Stansted Airport, board at Liverpool Street, and save a
pound?

--
jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:30:06 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote:


Travelcards (issued for the appropriate zones) are valid on all National
Rail services with the exception of Heathrow Express (all journeys) and
Heathrow Connect (between Hayes and Harlington and the heathrow
stations).


So they are valid on Stansted Express?


Yes.

If I already have a Travelcard, can I then just buy a ticket valdid from
Tottenham Hale to Stansted Airport, board at Liverpool Street, and save a
pound?


Yes, and it does not have to be from that particular station even if
that is the only one it actually stops at. You can buy a ticket from the
boundary of the last zone your Travelcard is valid for and up to
Stansted Airport. For example, if you have a Zone 1-4 Travelcard you can
buy a "BOUNDARY ZONE 4 - STANSTED AIRPORT" ticket from a National Rail
station.

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:07:59 GMT, Olof Lagerkvist wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:30:06 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote:


Travelcards (issued for the appropriate zones) are valid on all National
Rail services with the exception of Heathrow Express (all journeys) and
Heathrow Connect (between Hayes and Harlington and the heathrow
stations).


So they are valid on Stansted Express?


Yes.

If I already have a Travelcard, can I then just buy a ticket valdid from
Tottenham Hale to Stansted Airport, board at Liverpool Street, and save a
pound?


Yes, and it does not have to be from that particular station even if
that is the only one it actually stops at. You can buy a ticket from the
boundary of the last zone your Travelcard is valid for and up to
Stansted Airport. For example, if you have a Zone 1-4 Travelcard you can
buy a "BOUNDARY ZONE 4 - STANSTED AIRPORT" ticket from a National Rail
station.

Ok, but at

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/content.asp?SID={4B7B47A8-B865-4410-B500-AE02E0E401ED}&pageid=30

they only sell tickets between Stansted Airport and Tottenham Hale or
Liverpool Street.

How much is a BOUNDARY ZONE 4 - STANSTED AIRPORT ticket?

--
jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

How much is a BOUNDARY ZONE 4 - STANSTED AIRPORT ticket?

FOR 38.00
SOR 24.20
FOS 22.00
CDR 15.00
SOS 14.00

Only slightly cheaper than Tottenham Hale-Stansted Airport. And somehow
the FOR price is more expensive, while the FOS is still slightly cheaper.
--
Michael Hoffman

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:22:49 +0100, Michael Hoffman wrote:

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

How much is a BOUNDARY ZONE 4 - STANSTED AIRPORT ticket?

FOR 38.00
SOR 24.20
FOS 22.00
CDR 15.00
SOS 14.00

Only slightly cheaper than Tottenham Hale-Stansted Airport. And somehow
the FOR price is more expensive, while the FOS is still slightly cheaper.

I've had a look at

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/websi...ns_of_Rail.pdf

"NATIONAL RAIL CONDITIONS OF CARRIAGE", which state:

17. A combination of tickets
You may use two or more tickets to travel on one train journey
as long as together they cover the entire journey and one of
the following applies:-

(a) they are zonal tickets;

(b) the train you are on calls at the station where you change
from one ticket to another; or

(c) one of the tickets is a season ticket, which for this purpose
does not include season tickets or travel passes issued on
behalf of a passenger transport executive or local authority,
and the other ticket(s) is/are not. You must comply with any
restriction of use to a particular Train Company's trains shown
on the tickets (see Condition 10).

---

The travelcard is obviously zonal, but is the boundary zone 4 - Stansted
Airport zonal? If not, I interpret the above to say that the ticket
combination is not allowed, because Tottenham Hale is in zone 3, and the
Stansted Express only calls at three stations (Liverpool Street, Tottenham
Hale, and Stansted Airport.)

Am I correct?

--
jhk

Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

The travelcard is obviously zonal, but is the boundary zone 4 - Stansted
Airport zonal?

Yes.

If not, I interpret the above to say that the ticket
combination is not allowed, because Tottenham Hale is in zone 3, and the
Stansted Express only calls at three stations (Liverpool Street, Tottenham
Hale, and Stansted Airport.)

Am I correct?

No.
--
Michael Hoffman