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Default Crossrail could bankrupt London - says Ken Livingstone

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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:58:47 +0000, Jane Sullivan
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And if those employees lost their jobs, then that would take several
billion pounds out of the local economy of the south-east and, by
extension, Britain.


But why would they lose their jobs if Crossrail didn't happen?


They'd lose their jobs if the financial centre of Europe moved out of
London to Frankfurt.

The
existing lines are by and large adequate (if not always pleasant) for
getting everyone to their current jobs - if they weren't, they
wouldn't get there!

Neil


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In message , Neil Williams
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:58:47 +0000, Jane Sullivan
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And if those employees lost their jobs, then that would take several
billion pounds out of the local economy of the south-east and, by
extension, Britain.


But why would they lose their jobs if Crossrail didn't happen?


They'd lose their jobs if the financial centre of Europe moved out of
London to Frankfurt.


Shurely, it's off to Delhi...
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:24:50 +0000, Jane Sullivan
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In message , Neil Williams
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:58:47 +0000, Jane Sullivan
wrote:

And if those employees lost their jobs, then that would take several
billion pounds out of the local economy of the south-east and, by
extension, Britain.


But why would they lose their jobs if Crossrail didn't happen?


They'd lose their jobs if the financial centre of Europe moved out of
London to Frankfurt.


So - learn German and move to Frankfurt.

Lower cost of + higher standard of living for the sake of making a
little linguistic effort.

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Am Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:53:51 UTC, schrieb Mike Roebuck
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They'd lose their jobs if the financial centre of Europe moved out of
London to Frankfurt.


So - learn German and move to Frankfurt.


You don't need to speak German to work in many of the banks here.


Cheers,
L.W.

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"Lüko Willms" writes:
So - learn German and move to Frankfurt.


You don't need to speak German to work in many of the banks here.


My impression is that most educated Germans speak better English than I
do... :-/

[ The first time I went to Germany, I came out of the airport, and tried
to ask a question in German at a newsstand -- whereupon the newsagent
started yelling at me to "speak English!" :-O

It was kind of a relief to go to (former) East Germany (this was just
after unification) where I could practice speaking German without
risking ridicule... ]

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Am Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:53:51 UTC, schrieb Mike Roebuck
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They'd lose their jobs if the financial centre of Europe moved out of
London to Frankfurt.


So - learn German and move to Frankfurt.


You don't need to speak German to work in many of the banks here.


But it would help for going shopping after work...

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Am Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:25:57 UTC, schrieb Graeme Wall
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So - learn German and move to Frankfurt.


You don't need to speak German to work in many of the banks here.


But it would help for going shopping after work...


Generally, you don't have to know the local language to buy
something, gestures of yes and no, indicating numbers by figures or
the amount of money would be enough.

And especially in a supermarket you don't talk to the shelves but
take what you want.

And speaking some other language than German might be an advantage
when the sales personnel originates from a country whose language you
master.


Cheers,
L.W.



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Am Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:25:57 UTC, schrieb Graeme Wall
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So - learn German and move to Frankfurt.

You don't need to speak German to work in many of the banks here.


But it would help for going shopping after work...


Generally, you don't have to know the local language to buy
something, gestures of yes and no, indicating numbers by figures or
the amount of money would be enough.

And especially in a supermarket you don't talk to the shelves but
take what you want.

And speaking some other language than German might be an advantage
when the sales personnel originates from a country whose language you
master.


You don't have to take everything quite so literally...

As for your last paragraph, I speak rather less Turkish than German.

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Am Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:50:54 UTC, schrieb Graeme Wall
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And speaking some other language than German might be an advantage
when the sales personnel originates from a country whose language you
master.


As for your last paragraph, I speak rather less Turkish than German.


Well, the salesperson might have migrated from Pakistan, Sri Lanka,
or India...

You don't have to take everything quite so literally...


Don't take it personal. I like to tell what I think about
interesting subjects.

Have a nice day!


Cheers,
L.W.


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On 26 Mar, 11:50, Graeme Wall wrote:
Generally, you don't have to know the local language to buy
something, gestures of yes and no, indicating numbers by figures or
the amount of money would be enough.


And especially in a supermarket you don't talk to the shelves but
take what you want.


And speaking some other language than German might be an advantage
when the sales personnel originates from a country whose language you
master.


You don't have to take everything quite so literally...

As for your last paragraph, I speak rather less Turkish than German.


Oddly enough, I've just successfully purchased six months' supply of
contact lenses [at 1/3 of UK opticians' prices for the same brand made
in the same US factory. Can we wind up that cartel next please?], some
groceries and toiletries, and a toasted sandwich - all from people who
speak Turkish and no English.

I'm in Istanbul rather than Frankfurt though

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