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martin wrote:

There's a photo at http://flickr.com/photos/22819720@N02/2307578958/


Thanks, there's quite a few photos in that gallery - I particularly enjoyed
the ones of the frosted glass panels.



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On 29 Mar, 17:24, Roland Perry wrote:
There seems to be a lot of "going up and down" mentioned with respect to
T5. I understand they don't have the space to make it flat like
Stansted, but couldn't they have kept it more on one floor (one each for
arrivals and departures), like Gatwick North?


It's a fairly good design. From the tube (lower basement) you go up by
direct lift to Departures on the top floor (where the coach drop off
road also is). Check in and security happens on this floor. If your
gate is in building 5B you get a long escalator down to the people
mover in the basement., but for gates in the main building you go down
one floor on an escalator to where the gate waiting areas are, and
also the shops. Each gate then has another escalator (and lift) behind
the boarding pass desk that goes down to the floor below, where the
actual jetways are.

IF you're arriving, the jetways are on the same floor as immigration/
customs. Once complete you go down one floor to baggage claim, which I
think is on the ground floor. You come out by the tube/HEx ticket
office, and it's a simple lift down to catch a train.

There's a lot of up and down, but very little horizontal movement.

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Mr Thant wrote:
On 29 Mar, 17:24, Roland Perry wrote:
There seems to be a lot of "going up and down" mentioned with
respect to T5. I understand they don't have the space to make it
flat like Stansted, but couldn't they have kept it more on one floor
(one each for arrivals and departures), like Gatwick North?


It's a fairly good design. From the tube (lower basement) you go up by
direct lift to Departures on the top floor (where the coach drop off
road also is). Check in and security happens on this floor. If your
gate is in building 5B you get a long escalator down to the people
mover in the basement., but for gates in the main building you go down
one floor on an escalator to where the gate waiting areas are, and
also the shops.


Actually the escalators to the people mover start from the T5A gate waiting
and shops floor. I wandered past them during the trial I was on while
waiting for my "flight" to Moscow, but unfortunately they were out of use
that day.
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12:22:08 on Sat, 29 Mar 2008, Mr Thant
remarked:
IF you're arriving, the jetways are on the same floor as immigration/
customs. Once complete you go down one floor to baggage claim,


I doubt that customs is *before* baggage claim.

which I think is on the ground floor. You come out by the tube/HEx
ticket office, and it's a simple lift down to catch a train.


That may explain a comment I read about transit passengers having to go
"down to the station then back up again". Maybe they aren't actually
going underground at all, just down to baggage claim level (which may
feel like it's underground even if actually at ground level) then back
up to the security level, then back down again to the shops (etc).
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Try http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/gettingaro...ow/default.asp

Jason

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On 27 Mar, 01:59, Mizter T wrote:
And one thing can be certain - there will be much said and indeed much
to say about it. Already BAA have put the plan to fingerprint all
passengers flying from T5 on hold because of concerns over compliance
with data protection laws, whilst anti-third runway protesters plan on
holding a 'flash mob protest' at T5 at 11am today.

Main BBC News online story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7314816.stm

BBC News - BA pioneer to land first T5 plane
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7313093.stm

BBC News - Heathrow fingerprint plan on hold
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7315415.stm

BAA has produced a fairly comprehensive and reasonably informative
Terminal 5 information pack, which can be read or downloaded via this
link (PDF):

http://www.heathrowairport.com/asset...20Files/T5_Inf...

The 'Vital Statistics' pages do contain some useful hard facts, along
with the obligatory comparisons of elements of T5 with pre-existing
'big things' - however, whilst some such comparisons are ridiculed,
the fact that the T5 site is stated to be the equivalent area to Hyde
Park did catch my imagination (though maybe that just merely proves
I'm a bit of a simpleton...).

And anyone who decides that the unit of comparison for the amount of
steel in the roof is to be bull elephants wins my respect! (It's 2,833
bull elephants worth of steel, by the way - and you'd better get used
to it, as this is the unit which Lakshmi Mittal is apparently
considering switching to.)

Lots of other things of note in there. I particularly liked the choice
of the type of tree that was chosen for the area outside the main
entrance to the terminal building - the 40 woody perennials in
question are of course London Plane trees.


Where can I find an update to
http://www.heathrowairport.com/asset...ers_map_05.pdf
showing which bus services are free along the perimeter roads of the
airport now that Terminal 5 is open?



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In message , at 00:19:47 on
Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Jason Fisher remarked:
Try http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/gettingaro...ow/default.asp


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/gettingaro...5/pdf/T5spider
map.pdf

At first sight that seems to be the opposite of what the OP was asking
for. In other words it says (in top RH corner) that you need to pay for
the buses, and confusingly the only two (eg) between T123 and T5 are the
441/724, which it says doesn't accept tfl payment methods (but omits to
say what methods it *does* accept).

If you look very carefully, there's a Heathrow "freeflow" area, but it's
not explained particularly well,

Also not clear why T5 needs 31 bus stops for just 9 bus services !!

wrote in message news:541342c3-5656-47f4-bb58-d
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Where can I find an update to
http://www.heathrowairport.com/asset...20Files/Space_
Invaders_map_05.pdf
showing which bus services are free along the perimeter roads of the
airport now that Terminal 5 is open?


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Where can I find an update to


http://www.heathrowairport.com/asset...Files/Space_In


vaders_map_05.pdf
showing which bus services are free along the perimeter roads of the
airport now that Terminal 5 is open?


A non-BAA one is

http://www.milesfaster.co.uk/informa...heathrow-londo
n-bus.htm

Some items have not been updated, so note the 555 sevice is now 2 per
hour (556 dropped) and the revised 557 only goes as far as Hatton
Cross.

My understanding was that the freeflow zone applied to all 'local'
buses but not to coaches or the inter-hotel Hoppa. The Reading and
Woking Rail-Air links count as coaches, the Feltham link is a regular
Tfl bus (285).

http://www.milesfaster.co.uk/informa...heathrow-freef
low.pdf

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