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According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.

Whatever one might interpret that to mean, it's all Boris Johnson's
idea.

Why didn't anyone think of it before (whatever it means)?

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MIG wrote:
According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.

Whatever one might interpret that to mean, it's all Boris Johnson's
idea.

Why didn't anyone think of it before (whatever it means)?


First Great Western are to be the first according to the radio.
Boris has done it so fast, it's a pity Ken did not try it (;-)

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On 12 May, 18:49, MIG wrote:
According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.


Evening Standard/London Lite article:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...May/article.do

Mayor of London press release:
http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_...eleaseid=16853

(interestingly nothing heard from TfL)

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On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:52:51 +0100, Tony Dragon
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MIG wrote:
According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.

Whatever one might interpret that to mean, it's all Boris Johnson's
idea.

Why didn't anyone think of it before (whatever it means)?


First Great Western are to be the first according to the radio.
Boris has done it so fast, it's a pity Ken did not try it (;-)


Ken was trying, but apparently Boris has adopted a "less
confrontational" approach which appears to be paying dividends.
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On 12 May, 18:56, James Farrar wrote:
According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.


Whatever one might interpret that to mean, it's all Boris Johnson's
idea.


Why didn't anyone think of it before (whatever it means)?


First Great Western are to be the first according to the radio.
Boris has done it so fast, it's a pity Ken did not try it (;-)


Ken was trying, but apparently Boris has adopted a "less
confrontational" approach which appears to be paying dividends.


Or, in the real world, Ken had already achieved it (Oyster was already
scheduled for roll-out on National Rail by 2009) but Boris took the
credit, and the Standard has let him get away with taking the credit.

Still, I'm sure the London press will be happy to apply just the same
levels of scrutiny to the new mayor that it applied to his
predecessor. Oh yes.

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On 12 May, 18:56, James Farrar wrote:
Ken was trying, but apparently Boris has adopted a "less
confrontational" approach which appears to be paying dividends.


FGW were already on side for a roll out this year, and Boris doesn't
seem any closer to an agreement with the other companies than Ken was,
so it's not entirely clear what he's meant to have achieved.

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According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.

Whatever one might interpret that to mean, it's all Boris Johnson's
idea.


Given that virtually all TOCs had already agreed to, or been forced
into, this, Boris's only real claim to fame is mastering the art of
spin.
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John B wrote:

Or, in the real world, Ken had already achieved it (Oyster was already
scheduled for roll-out on National Rail by 2009) but Boris took the
credit, and the Standard has let him get away with taking the credit.


Still, I'm sure the London press will be happy to apply just the same
levels of scrutiny to the new mayor that it applied to his
predecessor. Oh yes.


Boris's campaign could have done without the headache of the row over
routemaster costs. And which newspaper made an issue of it?

Anyway if you want an anti-Boris Livingstone-nostalgic paper, buy the
Grauniad. Or try getting "The Evening Communist" started and successful.


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On 12 May, 18:49, MIG wrote:
According to the London ****e, there will be Oysters on Overground by
next May.


Evening Standard/London Lite article:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...May/article.do


Yet again a London paper uses the term 'overground' confusingly, as the
'Overground' has been Oyster enabled since November. They also refer to the
'overland network' - another new term.

Paul S


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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

Boris's campaign could have done without the headache of the row over
routemaster costs. And which newspaper made an issue of it?


The Guardian. Dave Hill's piece appeared around about the first week in
March and proved to be entirely correct.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...london08.boris

When did the Standard lay into it?

Anyway if you want an anti-Boris Livingstone-nostalgic paper, buy
the Grauniad. Or try getting "The Evening Communist" started and
successful.


If you like your transport finances to pass more than a superficial
examination you're a Communist? Interesting. *makes note*

Tom


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