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Default Stansted - St Pancras International - routeing query

On May 16, 1:34 am, MarkVarley - MVP
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:46:56 -0700 (PDT), TimB
wrote this gibberish:



On May 15, 1:34 pm, wrote:
On 15 May, 13:15, Mr Thant
wrote:


On 15 May, 12:31, wrote:
My reading of the NFM didn't leave me sure either way!


Section L says any ticket valid on trains "between Seven Sisters/
Tottenham Hale/Walthamstow Central and Zone U1 or beyond" (which yours
surely is, to Liverpool St and St. P) is valid on the tube "via the
Victoria Line from Seven Sisters/Tottenham Hale/Walthamstow Central to
any station in Zones 1 to 3", so I think you're OK.


http://www.atoc.org/retail/_download...8_Common_L.pdf


Thanks - I didn't look hard enough! Now you've pointed me in the right
direction, I've found another paragraph in Section L about the
relevant 'one' (now NXEA) services : "Interchange with LU services is
permitted at Liverpool Street OR Walthamstow Central, Tottenham Hale,
Seven Sisters as dictated by the pattern of train service."


It is of course possible that there is some weird restriction on the
London International tickets, but that reading of the NFM would
hopefully preclude such a thing.


Thanks,
Sam


I haven't changed at TH recently, but assuming there are still no
barriers there you won't be checked till KXSP anyway.
Tim


No Barriers for the NR platforms, just barriers down to the
underground.
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Gibberish indeed, what was I thinking?
Tim

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Default Stansted - St Pancras International - routeing query

On Fri, 16 May 2008 00:27:24 -0700 (PDT), TimB
wrote this gibberish:

On May 16, 1:34 am, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:46:56 -0700 (PDT), TimB
wrote this gibberish:



On May 15, 1:34 pm, wrote:
On 15 May, 13:15, Mr Thant
wrote:


On 15 May, 12:31, wrote:
My reading of the NFM didn't leave me sure either way!


Section L says any ticket valid on trains "between Seven Sisters/
Tottenham Hale/Walthamstow Central and Zone U1 or beyond" (which yours
surely is, to Liverpool St and St. P) is valid on the tube "via the
Victoria Line from Seven Sisters/Tottenham Hale/Walthamstow Central to
any station in Zones 1 to 3", so I think you're OK.


http://www.atoc.org/retail/_download...8_Common_L.pdf


Thanks - I didn't look hard enough! Now you've pointed me in the right
direction, I've found another paragraph in Section L about the
relevant 'one' (now NXEA) services : "Interchange with LU services is
permitted at Liverpool Street OR Walthamstow Central, Tottenham Hale,
Seven Sisters as dictated by the pattern of train service."


It is of course possible that there is some weird restriction on the
London International tickets, but that reading of the NFM would
hopefully preclude such a thing.


Thanks,
Sam


I haven't changed at TH recently, but assuming there are still no
barriers there you won't be checked till KXSP anyway.
Tim


No Barriers for the NR platforms, just barriers down to the
underground.
--
Mark Varleywww.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.ukwww.TwistedPhotogra phy.co.uk
London, England.


Gibberish indeed, what was I thinking?
Tim


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Default Stansted - St Pancras International - routeing query

On 15 May, 17:12, Roland Perry wrote:
Sam Holloway wrote:
It is of course possible that there is some weird restriction on the
London International tickets, but that reading of the NFM would
hopefully preclude such a thing.


That's the wriggle room, isn't it.

The paragraph referred to above says that tickets with that validity
"should be issued with a destination of ZONE U123 LONDON", whereas yours
probably has a destination of LNDON ESTAR CIV.

So is the routing easement based on where you are heading (ie inside
Z1), or on what your ticket says is the destination??


I was wondering that... However, I've also been checking the fares.

STN-Seven Sisters is £15.50. Plus £2.50 Oyster PAYG single = £18
STN-London International CIV = £20
STN-London Zone 1 = £17.50
STN-London St Pancras = £21

And there are probably a load of others I haven't discovered. :-)

Sam


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