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Distribution of bus types in use
I haven't been to London for a few years. But I've heard a lot on
this newsgroup about the elimination of Routemasters except for a few "heritage" services, and the widespread introduction of articulated single-deck buses. What I haven't heard about is the status of the *other* double-deckers, the ones operated only by a driver. Are these still in use on some routes or have they been totally replaced without my hearing about it? If they are still in use, are they expected to be totally replaced? And what about the smaller single-deck buses that I used to see on some of the quieter routes? And are there other important subcategories these days that I didn't think to ask about? Are there statistics somewhere about how many buses are in use of each of these types, or how many routes they operate on? I'm just looking for a general idea here, and I don't particularly want to know about specific models of bus unless they differ in important ways. -- Mark Brader, Toronto "Information! ... We want information!" -- The Prisoner My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008, Mark Brader wrote:
I haven't been to London for a few years. But I've heard a lot on this newsgroup about the elimination of Routemasters except for a few "heritage" services, and the widespread introduction of articulated single-deck buses. 'Widespread' is perhaps too strong. Twelve routes (i think) use bendies. They are some of the busiest and most important, though, so you see them quite often if you're somewhere that's anywhere. What I haven't heard about is the status of the *other* double-deckers, the ones operated only by a driver. Are these still in use on some routes or have they been totally replaced without my hearing about it? They're still around, and account, i'd say, for the vast majority of buses. If they are still in use, are they expected to be totally replaced? No. Bendification was only ever planned for the busiest routes, as it's fairly expensive and requires good, wide roads. Double-deckers were always slated to carry on serving the majority of routes. Now that there's a moratorium on further bendification, and a possible rolling-back of bendies under the Boris, that's guaranteed. And what about the smaller single-deck buses that I used to see on some of the quieter routes? Yes, there are still plenty of those. And are there other important subcategories these days that I didn't think to ask about? A tracked, armoured bus is being trialled in Peckham. Are there statistics somewhere about how many buses are in use of each of these types, or how many routes they operate on? I'm just looking for a general idea here, and I don't particularly want to know about specific models of bus unless they differ in important ways. I can't immediately find any such data. I couldn't even find a definitive list of bendy-bus routes! tom -- These spoiled youths forget that when they are shaven they look like boiled potatoes. -- Tara Singh |
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On 18 May, 21:37, Tom Anderson wrote:
I can't immediately find any such data. I couldn't even find a definitive list of bendy-bus routes! Try the London Free Bus Map: http://www.philippekindelis.net/freetransport.htm U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 21:37:15 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: Bendification was only ever planned for the busiest routes, as it's fairly expensive and requires good, wide roads. Like some of the ones they use in Central London! |
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On Mon, 19 May 2008, James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 21:37:15 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: Bendification was only ever planned for the busiest routes, as it's fairly expensive and requires good, wide roads. Like some of the ones they use in Central London! They *require* good, wide roads. They don't always get them! tom -- If you had a chance to do any experiment you pleased, unconstrained by any considerations of humanity or decency, what would you choose? |
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Tom Anderson wrote:
A tracked, armoured bus is being trialled in Peckham. This is a joke, isn't it? |
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On Mon, 19 May 2008, John Rowland wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote: A tracked, armoured bus is being trialled in Peckham. This is a joke, isn't it? Sadly, yes. There is that amphibious 'duck bus' that does sightseeing trips, though. We should get some of those in the TfL fleet. tom -- If you had a chance to do any experiment you pleased, unconstrained by any considerations of humanity or decency, what would you choose? |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:58:54 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote: Boris Johnson, the new Mayor, wants to consign all of these to the scrap yard. Is that actually true, or does he just want to stop using them on TfL services? |
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