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Im an american which would be better to buy ie less expensive the
travelcard or oyster?

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Im an american which would be better to buy ie less *expensive the
travelcard or oyster?


It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's
almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard
ON Oyster.

The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day
when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit.

A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times
the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the
peak, plus you can use it on National Rail.

They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many
zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the
daily limit.

If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London
every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal.
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On Jul 2, 1:58 am, MIG wrote:
On Jul 2, 3:38 am, "
wrote:

Im an american which would be better to buy ie less expensive the
travelcard or oyster?


It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's
almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard
ON Oyster.

The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day
when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit.

A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times
the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the
peak, plus you can use it on National Rail.

They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many
zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the
daily limit.

If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London
every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal.


What would the oyster cost vs the travelcard?
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On Jul 2, 2:44*pm, "
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On Jul 2, 1:58 am, MIG wrote:





On Jul 2, 3:38 am, "
wrote:


Im an american which would be better to buy ie less *expensive the
travelcard or oyster?


It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's
almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard
ON Oyster.


The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day
when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit.


A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times
the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the
peak, plus you can use it on National Rail.


They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many
zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the
daily limit.


If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London
every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal.


What would the oyster cost vs the travelcard?


There is no simple answer to that, but here is a link to the fares
guide.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-08-01-02.pdf

The thing to bear in mind is that the Oyster card itself is just a
means of storing credit, and it can be used to store, for example, a
weekly travelcard. A weekly travelcard stored on Oyster is exactly
the same price as a weekly travelcard on paper.

An Oyster card can also store Pay As You Go credit.

Depending on what zones you cover at what times of day and what modes
of transport you use, the total amount of Pay As You Go is "capped" in
any single day to just under the cost of a one-day travelcard (or bus
pass) covering the same amount of travel.

However, unlike a travelcard or bus pass, if you don't reach the cap
on a particular day, the credit remains for use on subsequent days.

A weekly travelcard offers a much greater discount than a one-day, so
a person travelling to work and back five days a week on Underground
and buses would be better off with a weekly travelcard, and still have
free travel at the weekend.

And to really mess up the whole plan, National Rail services, for
which travelcards are valid (including those stored on Oyster), mostly
don't accept Pay As You Go yet, so their gates read Oyster cards, but
only to check if there is a valid travelcard on them.

You begin to get the idea of how complicated it is ...
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10:23:52 on Wed, 2 Jul 2008, MIG remarked:
Depending on what zones you cover at what times of day and what modes
of transport you use, the total amount of Pay As You Go is "capped" in
any single day to just under the cost of a one-day travelcard (or bus
pass) covering the same amount of travel.


And can I stress that the answer to the logical question of "in that
case why use a travelcard at all", is that they are valid on a range of
National Rail services that Oyster PAYG isn't. But it is valid on some -
so knowing what your travel pattern is will help that decision.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_...OysterPAYG.pdf
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?
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On 3 Jul, 17:07, "
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?


It won't. If the obvious route between two stations is via Zone 1, you
get charged the via Z1 fare regardless.

U

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On Jul 3, 1:16 pm, Mr Thant
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On 3 Jul, 17:07, "
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?


It won't. If the obvious route between two stations is via Zone 1, you
get charged the via Z1 fare regardless.

U

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A blog about transport projects in London


1 more ? does the 7 days start from purchase or first use?
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On Jul 4, 12:11*am, "
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On Jul 3, 1:16 pm, Mr Thant
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On 3 Jul, 17:07, "
wrote:


Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?


It won't. If the obvious route between two stations is via Zone 1, you
get charged the via Z1 fare regardless.


U


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A blog about transport projects in London


1 more ? does the 7 days start from purchase or first use?


When you buy a period travelcard you can specify the start date.

But that is then fixed; it isn't triggered by first use.
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or
transferred to the jubilee via greenpark?


You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another
bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus
avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs
through the night.

Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to
Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.

A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p.

Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations.

A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money
unless you plan to:

1) Regularly travel before 09.30
2) use National Rail a lot,
3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days.

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