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I now have a swipe card for free travel in London, (yes thats right im
******** old now, official). Ive seen people here warbling on about
swiping
when leaving the system to avoid maximum fare or whatever. SWMBO also
insists this is needed. (my Local Council picks up the bill for the free
travel). Right, I went up to London, swiped the card both ends. Came back,
swiped in but didnt swipe out because the barriers were not in us as they
are not when station not staffed. I might be old but I dont come home for
********* tea, do I !!!

SWMBO thinks my card and therefore council will be overcharged, will it?
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Following up to grusl

Sounds like a question for uk.transport.london. They're very good.


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On 25 Jul, 14:13, "grusl" wrote:
"Mike....." wrote in message

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Came back,
swiped in but didnt swipe out because the barriers were not in us as they
are not when station not staffed. I might be old but I dont come home for
********* tea, do I !!!


SWMBO thinks my card and therefore council will be overcharged, will it?


Assuming you have a Freedom Pass, then no:
"Usage of TfL services is measured by surveys on buses and trams,
using gate
data on the Underground and infrared counters on the DLR. These usage
figures
are then reduced by a “generation factor” which attempts to eliminate
the fact
that not all the journeys made by freedom pass holders would have been
if they
had to pay for the journey. The discounted number of journeys is then
multiplied
by an average cash fare paid, once again discounted to reflect the
fact that
freedom pass users would have selected a different basket of fares
than the
average traveller had they been paying for the journeys."
http://sharepoint.bromley.gov.uk/Pub...DF/DR04102.pdf

Ergo, how touch in or out with your card makes no difference to how
the council is charged. You might actually be saving them money.

Also, the Freedom Pass instructions only mention having to touch in or
out when you encounter gates.

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"grusl" wrote in message
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"Mike....." wrote in message
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I now have a swipe card for free travel in London, (yes thats right im
******** old now, official). Ive seen people here warbling on about
swiping
when leaving the system to avoid maximum fare or whatever. SWMBO also
insists this is needed. (my Local Council picks up the bill for the free
travel). Right, I went up to London, swiped the card both ends. Came
back,
swiped in but didnt swipe out because the barriers were not in us as they
are not when station not staffed. I might be old but I dont come home for
********* tea, do I !!!

SWMBO thinks my card and therefore council will be overcharged, will it?
--


Sounds like a question for uk.transport.london. They're very good.


Not today they're not.

The Oyster card system is broken again...

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I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
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Time for tea.



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Following up to William Black

The Oyster card system is broken again...


maybe it was me.........:-)
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William Black wrote:

"grusl" wrote in message
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Sounds like a question for uk.transport.london. They're very good.


Not today they're not.

The Oyster card system is broken again...


I think they're fixed again, but two problems this month is a bit
ridiculous.

Question to anyone that might know- are the problems with PAYG cards
fixed now? I wasn't in London at the time of the problems, so I'm
assuming my cards will be fine? Also, am I correct in understanding that
oyster PAYG works for Chiltern Railways in the LT area? I've a US friend
visiting soon, and I was going to lend him one of my oyster cards- and
he's intending to visit Wembley while in London.

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On 25 Jul, 16:49, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
Also, am I correct in understanding that
oyster PAYG works for Chiltern Railways in the LT area? I've a US friend
visiting soon, and I was going to lend him one of my oyster cards- and
he's intending to visit Wembley while in London.


Out of luck - they only work on Chiltern where they share an station
with LU.
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Chris wrote:

On 25 Jul, 16:49, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
Also, am I correct in understanding that
oyster PAYG works for Chiltern Railways in the LT area? I've a US friend
visiting soon, and I was going to lend him one of my oyster cards- and
he's intending to visit Wembley while in London.


Out of luck - they only work on Chiltern where they share an station
with LU.


I should just have done my own research rather than believe what I read
in newsgroups!

http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/st...mbley-stadium/

(They do work, according to the train operator.)

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:45:10 -0700 (PDT), Chris wrote:

Also, am I correct in understanding that
oyster PAYG works for Chiltern Railways in the LT area? I've a US friend
visiting soon, and I was going to lend him one of my oyster cards- and
he's intending to visit Wembley while in London.


Out of luck - they only work on Chiltern where they share an station
with LU.


Not any more - you can now also use PAYG at Wembley Stadium to
Northolt Park (i.e. all Chiltern stations in the Travelcard zones).
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"William Black" wrote in message
...

"grusl" wrote in message
...

"Mike....." wrote in message
. ..
I now have a swipe card for free travel in London, (yes thats right im
******** old now, official). Ive seen people here warbling on about
swiping
when leaving the system to avoid maximum fare or whatever. SWMBO also
insists this is needed. (my Local Council picks up the bill for the free
travel). Right, I went up to London, swiped the card both ends. Came
back,
swiped in but didnt swipe out because the barriers were not in us as
they
are not when station not staffed. I might be old but I dont come home
for
********* tea, do I !!!

SWMBO thinks my card and therefore council will be overcharged, will it?
--


Sounds like a question for uk.transport.london. They're very good.


Not today they're not.

The Oyster card system is broken again...


I meant the newsgroup, not TfL!

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore




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