"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
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I did wonder though, if it might be a worthwhile shortcut to come off the
North Circular at Waterworks Corner onto the A104 Woodford New Road / Lea
Bridge Road, and then along A114 Whipps Cross Road to join the A12 at the
Green Man roundabout - does anyone know what this is like in the evening
rush hour?

It can be pretty dire. Avoid all day Saturday as the tailbacks going into
Leytonstone often block the roundabout.

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Robin Mayes wrote:
It can be pretty dire. Avoid all day Saturday as the tailbacks going into
Leytonstone often block the roundabout.

I went from Balham to Enfield to pick up some secondhand doors for the SD1
on a Saturday. I didn't know the best route so went the 'direct' way
through the city and then north through Tottenham. Left Balham at 12.30
and got back about 6.30, this time using the North Circular to Hanger
Lane. Could have easily got to Edinburgh by then.

--
*I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

It can be pretty dire. Avoid all day Saturday as the tailbacks going
into
Leytonstone often block the roundabout.

I went from Balham to Enfield to pick up some secondhand doors for the SD1
on a Saturday. I didn't know the best route so went the 'direct' way
through the city and then north through Tottenham. Left Balham at 12.30
and got back about 6.30, this time using the North Circular to Hanger
Lane. Could have easily got to Edinburgh by then.

That was using the A406 on the way back then, was it? Absolute PITA, that
section. I've pretty much got it sorted as far as avoiding the bad bits - I
normally get off just before the Clockhouse Junction, then cut across Green
Lanes, up to Bounds Green Road, back on the NCR there, and off onto the
A1000, and then through East Finchley, Hampstead Garden Suburb, and Temple
Fortune, before getting back on just after the A1 junction. Hence why I go
the other way. Not completely sure of traffic flows around Docklands on a
Saturday, but can't imagine it'd be too bad - I reckon the best way would be
A24/A3 to the Elehpant and Castle, around to Tower Bridge, then up the
Highway, Limehouse Link/Aspen Way, then A12 / A406.

Peter

My immediate instinct is to go down the A10 until Seven Sisters, then
the A503 through Camden, towards and around Regents Park into Baker
Street, right into Marylebone Road, left into Old Marylebone Road and
across into Sussex Gardens, left into Sussex Place eventually through
Hyde Park, across Kensington Gore, right into Prince Consort Road and
eventually cross the A4 at Gloucester Road, leading to Cranley Gardens
and Elm Park Gardens until you get to Kings Road where I turn right
until I reach Putney Bridge.

nmtop40 wrote:
My immediate instinct is to go down the A10 until Seven Sisters, then
the A503 through Camden, towards and around Regents Park into Baker
Street, right into Marylebone Road, left into Old Marylebone Road and
across into Sussex Gardens, left into Sussex Place eventually through
Hyde Park, across Kensington Gore, right into Prince Consort Road and
eventually cross the A4 at Gloucester Road, leading to Cranley Gardens
and Elm Park Gardens until you get to Kings Road where I turn right
until I reach Putney Bridge.

Cheers for that - variations on the A10 / A503 route seem quite popular -
I'm guessing the A10 is quite quiet coming into town in the evening rush
hour. Follows the general theory that most people are coming out of town in
the evening. Certainly worked a while back when I had a drop in Temple
Fortune and then a few in town - I just flew down the Finchley Road.

Unfortunately that was the theory I worked on choosing the A13 in the route
I took - I avoided the A12 due to the inevitable massive queues at that
junction, and from that point of view I made the right choice - the queuing
at the end of the A406 to get onto the A13 was pretty much non-existent.

Shame I didn't think of a route similar to yours as I'm reasonably familiar
with the streets that cross over Fulham Road + Kings Road, though I probably
would have either gone through Hammersmith and up Fulham Palace Road, or
North End Road and Fulham Road, as Kings Road is an absolute PITA at the
moment with all the roads around the gas works being shut - the queues up to
Wandsworth Bridge Road are a nightmare at the moment - even joining Kings
Road at 1927 from Lots Road it took me until 1950 to get to my destination
in Putney.

I could well have been better off going over Battersea Bridge and possibly
even coming back over Wandsworth Bridge, or just through Wandsworth, which
is normally busy, but never at a standstill for too long (I hesitate to use
the word 'flowing'). But when I went that way the other day I wanted to
turn right onto Westbridge Road (the road that leads up to the heliport) but
it's a banned right turn - does anyone know if it's possible to turn right
onto Battersea Church Road ??

Peter

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AstraVanMan writes

I could well have been better off going over Battersea Bridge and possibly
even coming back over Wandsworth Bridge, or just through Wandsworth, which
is normally busy, but never at a standstill for too long (I hesitate to use
the word 'flowing'). But when I went that way the other day I wanted to
turn right onto Westbridge Road (the road that leads up to the heliport) but
it's a banned right turn - does anyone know if it's possible to turn right
onto Battersea Church Road ??

It is - or at least it was certainly possible last time I drove that way
a few weeks ago.

--
Paul Terry

I could well have been better off going over Battersea Bridge and
possibly
even coming back over Wandsworth Bridge, or just through Wandsworth,
which
is normally busy, but never at a standstill for too long (I hesitate to
use
the word 'flowing'). But when I went that way the other day I wanted to
turn right onto Westbridge Road (the road that leads up to the heliport)
but
it's a banned right turn - does anyone know if it's possible to turn
right
onto Battersea Church Road ??

It is - or at least it was certainly possible last time I drove that way
a few weeks ago.

Ah, great. Cheers for that. Just when I thought I'd found a reasonably
well flowing way out of town in that direction (Embankment, up Lots Road
past Chelsea Harbour, along Kings Road for only a few hundred metres, and
then up Edith Row and along to Imperial Road + up to Wandsworth Bridge) they
decide to close a load of roads. Well, I'm still figuring out all the back
streets - the only place I've got completely sorted out is the West End -
everywhere else I've still got a fair bit to learn!

Peter

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AstraVanMan wrote:
But when I went that way the other day I wanted to turn right onto
Westbridge Road (the road that leads up to the heliport) but it's a
banned right turn - does anyone know if it's possible to turn right onto
Battersea Church Road ??

Yes. That's the route I use. Although the lights where you join Vicarage
Road can be a bit slow sometimes.

To get to Putney from here, I'd turn left at the first lights after you
join Yorks road, into Plough Lane. Turn right at the South Circular (can
sometimes be slow) then left at the next lights into Spencer Park/Windmill
Road/ Earlsfield Road/Penwith Road. Right at the T junction into Merton
Road then 4th left into Replingham Road. Follow this to the top of the
hill past Southfields station and turn right into Beaumont Road. This
brings you out on the A3 just before Tibbet's Corner going south, and you
can go round the roundabout and approach Putney down Putney Hill. Of
course it depends on which part of Putney you're going to and the traffic
in general, but this route is fairly free flowing.

--
*On the other hand, you have different fingers.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

But when I went that way the other day I wanted to turn right onto
Westbridge Road (the road that leads up to the heliport) but it's a
banned right turn - does anyone know if it's possible to turn right onto
Battersea Church Road ??

Yes. That's the route I use. Although the lights where you join Vicarage
Road can be a bit slow sometimes.

To get to Putney from here, I'd turn left at the first lights after you
join Yorks road, into Plough Lane. Turn right at the South Circular (can
sometimes be slow) then left at the next lights into Spencer Park/Windmill
Road/ Earlsfield Road/Penwith Road. Right at the T junction into Merton
Road then 4th left into Replingham Road. Follow this to the top of the
hill past Southfields station and turn right into Beaumont Road. This
brings you out on the A3 just before Tibbet's Corner going south, and you
can go round the roundabout and approach Putney down Putney Hill. Of
course it depends on which part of Putney you're going to and the traffic
in general, but this route is fairly free flowing.

Well the part of Putney I was going to is only really accessible from Lower
Richmond Road, so that wouldn't have been a great help, though it quite
possibly could have been if it avoided the Kings Road at the moment - I
could always have gone around the A205 and down Gipsy Lane to Queens Ride
and around that way.

Also, are all of the roads you've mentioned speed hump free?? That's one
big PITA I find in so many of the shortcut roads around South London
(particularly in the A24 corridor around Tooting/Colliers Wood).

Peter

But when I went that way the other day I wanted to turn right onto
Westbridge Road (the road that leads up to the heliport) but it's a
banned right turn - does anyone know if it's possible to turn right onto
Battersea Church Road ??

Yes. That's the route I use. Although the lights where you join Vicarage
Road can be a bit slow sometimes.

To get to Putney from here, I'd turn left at the first lights after you
join Yorks road, into Plough Lane. Turn right at the South Circular (can
sometimes be slow) then left at the next lights into Spencer Park/Windmill
Road/ Earlsfield Road/Penwith Road. Right at the T junction into Merton
Road then 4th left into Replingham Road. Follow this to the top of the
hill past Southfields station and turn right into Beaumont Road. This
brings you out on the A3 just before Tibbet's Corner going south, and you
can go round the roundabout and approach Putney down Putney Hill. Of
course it depends on which part of Putney you're going to and the traffic
in general, but this route is fairly free flowing.

Well the part of Putney I was going to is only really accessible from Lower
Richmond Road, so that wouldn't have been a great help, though it quite
possibly could have been if it avoided the Kings Road at the moment - I
could always have gone around the A205 and down Gipsy Lane to Queens Ride
and around that way.

Also, are all of the roads you've mentioned speed hump free?? That's one
big PITA I find in so many of the shortcut roads around South London
(particularly in the A24 corridor around Tooting/Colliers Wood).

Peter