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Default Detraining at Wembley Park

This is more of a personal inconvenience than a real problem, but why
does the Metropolitan Line feel the need to schedule northbound trains
to terminate at Wembley Park and reverse into Neasden through the
diveunder? In theory, this shouldn't be too much of a problem, if
there is enough time to allow the next service to pass through Wembley
Park before reversing, but the margin of error can easily vanish. As
taking the train into the diveunder blocks all Met trains coming
north, this can mean a delay of two to three minutes at the best of
times. A hitch in detraining or a signalling problem can cause all
trains coming up from Finchley Road to be seriously delayed.

The real problem is that the diveunder does not allow for a northbound
Met to pass into Wembley Park while the train is reversing into depot.
Trains, however, could be halted further up the line. More southbound
trains from Amersham or Watford could terminate at Harrow-on-the-Hill
or Wembley Park and run straight into Neasden on the fast lines
without impeding any other traffic. A less satisfactory solution would
be reversing at Harrow (if the siding is free) or other northbound
stations. Scheduled reversals into the diveunder during passenger
hours should be kept to an absolute minimum.

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Default Detraining at Wembley Park

There is no problem if the following train is one that doesn't stop at
Preston Rd or Northwick Park, when it can use the fast line, and not be
affected by a train reversing into the underpass from the slow line.

I understand that the problem has recently been compounded by the fact that
due to track problems, (I think) trains from the NB slow line at Harrow on
the Hill cannot use Plat 3 and therefore all slow trains, whether to
Uxbridge or Watford have to use Plat 4. This means that the number of
trains reversing N-S via the siding has had to be drastically reduced.

Lawrence Myers

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This is more of a personal inconvenience than a real problem, but why
does the Metropolitan Line feel the need to schedule northbound trains
to terminate at Wembley Park and reverse into Neasden through the
diveunder? In theory, this shouldn't be too much of a problem, if
there is enough time to allow the next service to pass through Wembley
Park before reversing, but the margin of error can easily vanish. As
taking the train into the diveunder blocks all Met trains coming
north, this can mean a delay of two to three minutes at the best of
times. A hitch in detraining or a signalling problem can cause all
trains coming up from Finchley Road to be seriously delayed.

The real problem is that the diveunder does not allow for a northbound
Met to pass into Wembley Park while the train is reversing into depot.
Trains, however, could be halted further up the line. More southbound
trains from Amersham or Watford could terminate at Harrow-on-the-Hill
or Wembley Park and run straight into Neasden on the fast lines
without impeding any other traffic. A less satisfactory solution would
be reversing at Harrow (if the siding is free) or other northbound
stations. Scheduled reversals into the diveunder during passenger
hours should be kept to an absolute minimum.



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Default Detraining at Wembley Park

"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ...
There is no problem if the following train is one that doesn't stop at
Preston Rd or Northwick Park, when it can use the fast line, and not be
affected by a train reversing into the underpass from the slow line.

I understand that the problem has recently been compounded by the fact that
due to track problems, (I think) trains from the NB slow line at Harrow on
the Hill cannot use Plat 3 and therefore all slow trains, whether to
Uxbridge or Watford have to use Plat 4. This means that the number of
trains reversing N-S via the siding has had to be drastically reduced.

Lawrence Myers

As far as I can make out when passing over the track, it is impossible
for a fast train to pass into Wembley Park while a train is entering
the diveunder from the local line. The emptied train is usually held
on the local platform until the fast has left Wmebley Park (delaying
any succeeding locals).

Have the track problems at Harrow been rectified? NB trains appear to
be using Platform 3 as usual at the moment.


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