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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:00:27 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote: "Christopher A. Lee" wrote Of course it made sense to use the existing 4 rail system because apart from the LBSCR's overhead AC that was what the other London area lines used. The LNWR electrification was planned in 1907 and opened in 1914, with the Bakerloo linking up a year later. The original plan was to extend the New Lines from South Hampstead in deep-level tube to a terminus below Euston. In 1911, before the New Lines opened, this plan had been abandoned in favour of linking with the Bakerloo. OK. Even what was done was a major effort, quadrupling the track out to Watford with other major engineering works. The LSWR 3 rail system was planned later with the first section opening in 1915. Did the LSWR ever consider using the 4 rail system? The first LSWR line to be electrified (apart from the isolated Waterloo & City) was the route between Waterloo and Wimbledon, via East Putney, including the section between East Putney and Wimbledon which had already been electrified on the 4-rail system for District trains. So this was the first use of a line adapted to take both 3rd rail and 4th rail trains. I don't know. By the time the LSWR electrified there were other systems for comparison. I believe they had looked at the Liverpool-Southport electrification before they made up their mind. I do know that the New York Subway has major electrolytic corrosion problems on their elevated sections, which are like continuous girder bridges. I've never read of the third rail system having the running rails at a negative potential on either side of the Atlantic. Tram and streetcar track did this so the problem has been known for a very long time. Perhaps it is because pipes etc were laid under streets and surface trains had their own right of way. The original Met and Metropolitan District lines ran cut-and-cover under the streets, as did the tubes because of easement issues. And of course the latter tunnels were lined with cast iron segments. Peter |
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