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"Simon Clarke" wrote in message
om... O - Overground U - In a cutting between and adjacent to two sections of 'Cut and Cover' line (e.g. Bayswater). C - 'Cut and Cover' (Or shallow excavation e.g. Hatton Cross) T - 'Tube' (or deep excavation, e.g. North Greenwich) Bakerloo Line T Elephant & Castle - Kilburn Park O Kilburn Park - Harrow & Wealdstone The latter should, of course, be Queens Park - H&W. Piccadilly Line T Heathrow T4 & Heathrow T123 C Hatton Cross - Hounslow West O Uxbridge / Hounslow Central - Barons Court T Earls Court - Bounds Green O Arnos Grove C Southgate O Oakwood & Cockfosters Southgate is deep tube, despite having open air visible down one of the running tunnels. Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. Metropolitan O Uxbridge / Watford / Amersham / Chesham - Finchley Road U Baker St. C Great Portland St. - Kings Cross St Pancras O Farringdon U Barbican C Moorgate U Liverpool St. & Aldgate Great Portland Street is open at one end. District Line O Ealing Broadway / Richmond - West Kensington O Wimbledon - Parsons Green C Fulham Broadway (Only recently mind you!) O West Brompton U Earls court C Glocester Road U South Kensington - Sloane Square C Victoria - Tower Hill U Aldage East - Whitechapel C Stepney Green - Bow Road O Bromley By Bow - Upminster U High St. Kensington - Edgware Road Isn't Blackfriars partly open? Bow Road is half open. IIRC Stepney Green has a small garden which is open to the air, on a disused bay platform adjacent to the eastbound. East London Line O Shoreditch - Whitechapel U Shadwell C (T??) Wapping C Rotherhithe - Canada Water O Surrey Quays - New Cross / New Cross Gate. I think the north end of Wapping might be open. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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"John Rowland" wrote in
message "Simon Clarke" wrote in message om... O - Overground U - In a cutting between and adjacent to two sections of 'Cut and Cover' line (e.g. Bayswater). C - 'Cut and Cover' (Or shallow excavation e.g. Hatton Cross) T - 'Tube' (or deep excavation, e.g. North Greenwich) Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. I think that, like many modern stations, it was built as an open box and then roofed over. The running tunnels count as "T", but I suppose the station itself is "C". |
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![]() "Nigel Pendse" wrote in message ... "John Rowland" wrote in message "Simon Clarke" wrote in message om... O - Overground U - In a cutting between and adjacent to two sections of 'Cut and Cover' line (e.g. Bayswater). C - 'Cut and Cover' (Or shallow excavation e.g. Hatton Cross) T - 'Tube' (or deep excavation, e.g. North Greenwich) Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. I think that, like many modern stations, it was built as an open box and then roofed over. The running tunnels count as "T", but I suppose the station itself is "C". The tunnel from Hounslow West, Hatton Cross station and a short length of tunnel to the west are cut and cover. The bored tube tunnels start a short distance west of the station. |
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Thanks for all the helpful replies so far!
-- E -- "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints; the sinners are much more fun; only the good die young." -- Billy Joel |
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![]() "John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Simon Clarke" wrote in message om... O - Overground U - In a cutting between and adjacent to two sections of 'Cut and Cover' line (e.g. Bayswater). C - 'Cut and Cover' (Or shallow excavation e.g. Hatton Cross) T - 'Tube' (or deep excavation, e.g. North Greenwich) Bakerloo Line T Elephant & Castle - Kilburn Park O Kilburn Park - Harrow & Wealdstone The latter should, of course, be Queens Park - H&W. Piccadilly Line T Heathrow T4 & Heathrow T123 C Hatton Cross - Hounslow West O Uxbridge / Hounslow Central - Barons Court T Earls Court - Bounds Green O Arnos Grove C Southgate O Oakwood & Cockfosters Southgate is deep tube, despite having open air visible down one of the running tunnels. Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. Metropolitan O Uxbridge / Watford / Amersham / Chesham - Finchley Road U Baker St. C Great Portland St. - Kings Cross St Pancras O Farringdon U Barbican C Moorgate U Liverpool St. & Aldgate Great Portland Street is open at one end. District Line O Ealing Broadway / Richmond - West Kensington O Wimbledon - Parsons Green C Fulham Broadway (Only recently mind you!) O West Brompton U Earls court C Glocester Road U South Kensington - Sloane Square C Victoria - Tower Hill U Aldage East - Whitechapel C Stepney Green - Bow Road O Bromley By Bow - Upminster U High St. Kensington - Edgware Road Isn't Blackfriars partly open? Bow Road is half open. IIRC Stepney Green has a small garden which is open to the air, on a disused bay platform adjacent to the eastbound. East London Line O Shoreditch - Whitechapel U Shadwell C (T??) Wapping C Rotherhithe - Canada Water O Surrey Quays - New Cross / New Cross Gate. I think the north end of Wapping might be open. Mile End is open just above the w/b Central platform.... it's where the pigeons get in.... -- Kat in Downtown Toronto |
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In message , John Rowland
writes Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. I'm not sure it is very deep, is it? I recall just stairs down to the platforms - not even an escalator. -- Paul Terry |
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Paul Terry wrote:
In message , John Rowland writes Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. I'm not sure it is very deep, is it? I recall just stairs down to the platforms - not even an escalator. Yes, there are 33 steps down to the platforms, which have flat ceilings and are evidently cut-and-cover. The "obvious reason to cover it" is that the exit from the bus station and the airport perimeter road are on top of it. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Richard J.
), in message who said: Paul Terry wrote: In message , John Rowland writes Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. I'm not sure it is very deep, is it? I recall just stairs down to the platforms - not even an escalator. Yes, there are 33 steps down to the platforms, which have flat ceilings and are evidently cut-and-cover. The "obvious reason to cover it" is that the exit from the bus station and the airport perimeter road are on top of it. I've always wondered just who uses Hatton cross. With the exception of staff working in the immediate area, anyone going to the airport would surely use the two 'terminal' stations, and aside from an under-occupied industrial estate there's not a lot in the area on the non-airport side. The only time in my life that I've used the station was as a pick-up point on my world-record attempt, having just been around the Heathrow loop. BTN |
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In article , Ben Nunn wrote:
I've always wondered just who uses Hatton cross. With the exception of staff working in the immediate area, anyone going to the airport would surely use the two 'terminal' stations, and aside from an under-occupied industrial estate there's not a lot in the area on the non-airport side. The only time in my life that I've used the station was as a pick-up point on my world-record attempt, having just been around the Heathrow loop. I used to use it when I lived in Ealing - I'd get the tube from Northfields and get off at Hatton Cross, then get the H26 bus from there to Bedfont Lakes where I work. Niklas -- "Never go off on tangents, which are lines that intersect a curve at only one point and were discovered by Euclid, who lived in the 6th century, which was an era dominated by the Goths, who lived in what we now know as Poland." - Unknown from Nov. 1998 issue of Infosystems Executive. |
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"Ben Nunn" wrote in message
Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Richard J. ), in message who said: Paul Terry wrote: In message , John Rowland writes Are you sure Hatton Cross is cut-and-cover? It's quite deep, and there would be no obvious reason to cover it. I'm not sure it is very deep, is it? I recall just stairs down to the platforms - not even an escalator. Yes, there are 33 steps down to the platforms, which have flat ceilings and are evidently cut-and-cover. The "obvious reason to cover it" is that the exit from the bus station and the airport perimeter road are on top of it. I've always wondered just who uses Hatton cross. With the exception of staff working in the immediate area, anyone going to the airport would surely use the two 'terminal' stations, and aside from an under-occupied industrial estate there's not a lot in the area on the non-airport side. The only time in my life that I've used the station was as a pick-up point on my world-record attempt, having just been around the Heathrow loop. Presumably there are a lot of airline staff who use it, plus those picking up buses to go to/from local hotels, etc. Doesn't the airport run a free bus service from there? |
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